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The big discussion at our family Sunday dinner this week was whether or not there should be a Spanish version of the national anthem. Not only was this a heated discussion, but opinions varied from "about time" to "this is nonsense and needs to be stopped". It surely made for colorful dinner conversation.

Under discussion was the announcement that Gloria Trevi, Ivy Queen and Tito El Bambino are teaming up to release the U.S. national anthem in Spanish. Calling the anthem "Nuestro Himno", it will be part of the Somos Americanos album scheduled to be released later this week in conjuction with Urban Box Office (UBO). The song will be mainly in Spanish, with a melodical change reflecting a Latino structure. Proceeds will be going to the National Capital Immigration Coalition.

If you have an opinion as strong as those at dinner Sunday night, why not visit the forum and let us know your point of view?


April 27, 2006 at 11:32 pm
(1) Mike Pattison says:

I just want to start off by saying, Im not a racist, I have some very close hispanic friends but I am an AMERICAN and I have to stand up for what is right. This whole debate on immigration and the “new anthem” is completely insane. If you dont go through the citizen process like the law states, then you are in violation of the law. And the whole “Nuestro Himno” is an outrage to me. This is America, if people come to this country then they need to learn english, we dont need to bend our rules and accomidate others because they decided to come here. I think people of all walks of life are welcome here but to change our whole way of life to suit immigrants is stupid, and so is this whole debate…………

April 28, 2006 at 12:33 am
(2) Sarah Mertes says:

I am horrified and offended by this issue. The national anthem is not only a song, but a symbol that has unified our nation for decades. The immigrants are refusing to assimilate themselves into our culture. They will not adopt our language, our customs, etc. By creating their own version of our beloved song, they are not only bastardizing one of the most beautiful songs in the English language, but they are also destroying the unity the Anthem has secured for so long. The immigrants want to make it quite clear that although they are willing to enjoy the benefits this country can offer them, they want nothing to do with the culture or tradition. These people are not becoming citizens of a new land, but also of a new nation. If they want to have their own separate ‘nation’ (whether of ideas, anthems, or language), they can. It is called Mexico.

April 28, 2006 at 8:16 am
(3) Peggy Decker says:

The fact that some Latinos have felt a need to take the National Anthem, a sacred, symbolic and historical piece of music, and create their OWN version, one in Spanish, with different words, proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that they have NO desire to be Americans, no desire to assimilate. I took this quote directly from this site:” The song will be mainly in Spanish, with a melodical change reflecting a Latino structure. ” Seems to me that everything that they do reflects a “Latino Structure”..not an “American structure”.
So, not only are some Latinos supporting illegal aliens, people who have BROKEN OUR LAWS, and who have no respect for our laws, but now, to add insult to injury, they take the National Anthem and come up with their own DIVISIVE version. These people are NOT Americans, by any stretch of the imagination, and each time they do something such as this, they further alienate those of us who ARE Americans. Please visit Latino Americans for Immigration Reform so that you will see that not ALL Latinos buy into this reconquista mentality. Civil war is coming……it’s inevitable now.

April 28, 2006 at 8:32 am
(4) Carlos de Santiago says:

This hymn is no mocking anything America believes or stands for. It is simply a new version designed to prove the will of these immigrants to be recognized and ACCEPTED in America.
After all, is it not the land of the free? a land of democracy and love for all?

April 28, 2006 at 9:42 am
(5) Elena Rubio says:

I am a MEXICAN AMERICAN. I was born and raised in the USA. The same goes for the last 7 generations behind me. The Americans become so offended by the issue that we would sing “their song in spanish”. SO WHAT? This land is supposed to be about freedom. I more and more realize how racist this country still is. They act like they love all different races but the truth comes out in times like this. You know a rock band said it best. “I don’t want to be an American idiot” We hispanics are not offended that you take our food and make it more American, you try to learn our language and just ruin it. There are more American people in this country who break the laws over and over. Not only that, we can not even get Americans to get their fat butts off the couch and get a job. Ask an American to go out in the hot sun for 12 hours a day and pick fruits and veggies for $4.00 an hour and watch them laugh. All the people who are offended by the song should really be offended by their own fellow American who would hire and illegal and pay them less than minimum wage. Want to talk about breaking the laws well look at your own people first! VIVA MEXICO!

April 28, 2006 at 10:00 am
(6) Gaspar Blanston says:

I watched the comments and boom! the race card gets played! First of all, we are a nation of all races. We welcome all immigrants WHO OBEY OUR LAWS! The fact that the SSB is being recorded in Spanish just goes to show that Mexicans do not want to assimulate to our great country. They want to take it over. You fly your flag and say VIVA MEXICO! Why in the hell did you come here in the first place? Go back home and Viva Mexico there. This is not a racist attitude, this is an American attitude. Italians, Swedes, Chinese, Vietmanese and others have come here and assimulated to being Americans. Latinos seem to think that their 3rd world crap hole needs to become defacto culture here! Go back home to your proud land of corruption and 3rd world technology. We need people that will contribute to this country, not try to overthorw it! Time to build a wall and start going after the farmers that hire illegals. Basic being used as slave labor, while my tax dollars substadize them. Time to seal the border, and kick every illegal out so we can make them proud to say “Viva Mexico” in their own land!

April 28, 2006 at 10:05 am
(7) Laura Gonzalez says:

I am a first generation Mexican American, my parents are from Mexico, and proud of it, and are now American Citizens. They HAVE assimilated the culture, the language, the traditions and the lifestyle, however, the national anthem in Spanish will allow them to express their patriotism in their native language, which to me signifies and even deeper sense of pride than singing it in English. My parents have worked hard to become what they are today, they came into this country illegally twenty six years ago, and thanks to immigration reform they were able to become legal residents and then citizens. I believe that people like them are assets to this country, and it is on their shoulders that the nation can flourish and become the best. I think that people offended by this song have no foundation, I am not offended by it, I’m American, my parents are American, and if they want to sing the national anthem in Spanish, I will sing it with them. I’m with you, Elena, VIVA MEXICO!

April 28, 2006 at 10:11 am
(8) Elizabeth Garrity says:

When and how long will it take for the federal government to notice, we have been attack by a forein country who’s only goal is to take over? Terrorist are of little threat compared to the attack from the south. Iraq is a marshmallow war compared to what will take place on our own soil. The American people are tired of the invasion, of paying taxes to support this invasion, and putting up with the every moment results of it. Civil War would be a minor referrel to the explosion that is pending. Everyone thought the distruction of the Towers was a horrible event to watch, well, multiply that by over a million events. All compliments of Mexico. It has been a silent war for a long time, but get ready for the big boom. They will learn if they don’t like our land and culture, they will be forced to leave. Why don’t they fix their own country if it bothers them so much, that’s were they belong, not here. I personally say toss them their lanuage and their politicians back across the border where they belong and always have. REMEMBER THE ALAMO. Save our Country from the Silent War take over. Everyone fears being called a racist when expressing their opinion, why, if that’s what it takes to defend our country, I can be called anything they please. I am formost An American, one very tired of the discrmination of Americans in favor of a country who has never done one thing to assist us, or help defend in time of war. However they have chosen to go to War with us. Will the American people stand by and let them take over. I don’t think so.

April 28, 2006 at 10:14 am
(9) Lori Neuman says:

As an American Citizen I am incredibly offended that they have taken our National Anthem and bastardized it. I am not against anyone coming to this country. I do not think there is an American Citizen here who would begrudge someone a chance at a better life. I DO NOT think that anyone who comes to this country illegally has the right to protest about anything. You are a criminal. You broke the law of the United States of America. Get that through your thick heads!!! You’re a felon in the eyes of the law.

What makes you think you’re special? You crossed a river, you hid in a truck? There are thousands of people waiting for years to come here legally and you just butt in line and expect us to be happy? Then you protest about how unfairly you’re treated? Give me a break. The reason you’re working in the fields or mowing lawns or cleaning toilets is that you’re illegal and you can’t get a decent job because you do not have the documentation. Oh and there is that one other pesky little problem standing in the way of a better job for you. YOU REFUSE TO SPEAK ENGLISH!!!!! My grandparents came to this country in the 1930′s as Polish immigrants. They learned the language, they refused to teach any of us Polish because in America English is spoken. We keep our heritage yet we don’t ask that it be crammed down the throat of all around us. Why can’t these illegals do the same? I think it is laziness on their parts.

To the person who said Americans sit on their butts, Americanize your food and treat your poorly, I say to bad for you. Don’t come to my country illegally and except me to roll out the red carpet for you. This is America, yes it is the home of the free and we welcome you as long as you come here LEGALLY and learn our language. Don’t come here expecting US to learn your language. If I moved to Mexico I highly doubt that the Mexican government would provide the services that you expect us to. I KNOW for a fact that you wouldn’t learn english so you could speak to me. Yet, this is what you expect here. I refuse. This is AMERICA we speak ENGLISH! We have laws which you have broken. So, why don’t you get off your big illegal mexican ass and pack up and go home and petition to come to this country legally? Why don’t you learn English? Don’t call Americans lazy when you’re the very definition of it.

It is sad that these ILLEGALS think that these protests will help their cause. The only thing they are doing is polarizing the nation against them due to their lack of consideration for our countries laws, language and history.

April 28, 2006 at 10:35 am
(10) Ben says:

I think it is great that the national anthem is being sung in Spanish. It would remind us that we all come from different backgrounds!

None of us have full claim to this country, but all of us do have the claim. My family came from Europe 6-10 generations ago, but I am a United States citizen. You see, American implies from the Americas. There are two Americas: North America and South America. The Canadians all the way to the Chileans are Americans. However, we are oftentimes so self centered that we steal this name for ourselves.

When we start to realize that “all men are created equal… and are endowed by their creator th right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” then maybe our immigration laws would reflect that.

Do you support the Irish in having their “Irish day parades” do you insist that they speak our language? (Yes I Know they speak English, but do they really??? after all that English sure don’t sound like the English I speak down here in the south!)

Get off your high horses and help our brothers and sisters find life, liberty and give them a chance for the pursuit of happiness.

BTW the song in Spanish says the same thing as it does in English AND has nothing to do with immigration!

April 28, 2006 at 11:15 am
(11) Greg L says:

To all illegal Mexican immigrants,

As usual, you just have to use the racist crutch when you know you are completely in the wrong. We who were born here (regardless of your heritage) or became an American LEGALLY are Americans. ANYONE who enters this wonderful country ILLEGALLY is not! They are a burden! How can you expect to be welcomed into our country and culture when you have disrespected the laws of this great nation from the first step that you took on this great land of ours? You rally, arrogantly demanding the rights that we have by birthright just because you are here now illegally standing on our land. You even refuse to even learn the language? Why do you expect us to change who and what we are to make you and illegal immigrants happy? What makes you better than our ancestors that did come here LEGALLY and BLENDED into OUR society rather that hop a fence and demand we learn yours? It amazes me how stupid and arrogant you are!

Now on top of all of this you are disrespecting our beloved National Anthem by making a Mexican version and claiming it’s to help immigrants to understand it? LEARN ENGLISH! Here you are again trying to change us to accommodate you. All you do is cry about getting our birthrights, how you are Americans just because you are standing on our soil (illegally) and continually put up more disgracing barriers between us as such as this song. This is a sacred song in out hearts and you just stabbed us there. You just don’t understand, do you? That’s most likely due to the fact that you refuse to learn English.

Your actions tell us everything about who you really are.It doesn’t look promising.

April 28, 2006 at 11:26 am
(12) Paul says:

This idea is completely insane. I can not believe that this would even be taken ito consideration. The SSB is to be sung in English, bottom line. Immigrants is welcomed into this country and considerd themselves an american citizen. They should appreciate and respect the SSB and understand its meaning. Carlos Delgado of the New York Mets refuses to stand for the SSB, so now that it is in Spanish, will he stand? This new version even changes lyrics and adds some new ones. For example aline in the song says “these kids have no parents, cause all of these mean laws… let’s not start a war with all of these hard workers, they can not help were they are born.” Give me a break. I can guarantee that no other country would even take this into consideration. This country has become way to polittically correct and caters more and puts more time into its immigrants than it does to citizens who were born here. It is about time some one grew a pair and put their foot down. Enough is Enough. Oh and one more thing some of those so called artists who are partaking in this rediculous idea have criminal records. Lastly, I believe that immigrants should be welcome here, but the line needs to be drawn to much we are willing to sacrifice as Americans to cater to and make all immigrants happy. None the less allowing this to happen would break my heart and cause a tremendous amount of racial tension. No good will come out of this

April 28, 2006 at 12:04 pm
(13) Jim Marshall says:

The Spanish does not need to have a version of the United States of America National Anthem!!!

We don’t want a version of the French, Dutch, and German, Japan Anthem’s or any other countries for that matter.

If the Spanish do not like the National Anthem or understand it as it is, I would strongly recommend that they learn English and what the words means or get out of this country. If they are citizens of the United States, they should be able to speak and understand the official language of this country – ENGLISH!!!

If you are in here illegally then leave. The immigration folks will get you soon.

April 28, 2006 at 12:21 pm
(14) J.W.E. says:

I’m a U.S Citizen, and the Spanish Version of the National Anthem to me DOES NOT offend me in anyway, let’s face it, if it wasnt for the “Illegal Immigrants” working in the farms, we all wouldnt have food on the table, im not a Racist in anyway but we all know people here in america that isnt “Hispanic” wouldnt bust their butt in the Hot dog days of summer, working almost 12 hour days bending over and working for less than minimum wage. One more thing, I DONT believe in these so called “Minute Men” they are a joke!, shouldnt we be more focused on Osma Bin Laden? and other Terrorist?? But instead we decide to Target illegal Immigrants.

April 28, 2006 at 1:00 pm
(15) A.M.A. says:

I’m a first generation American. My parents were born in Mexico. They came to the United States, illegally, 24 years ago. They had nowhere to stay, no money to eat, nothing at all. But they found a job, worked their asses off (40+ hours a week) and went to school to learn English. Now, they are legal aliens making 15+ dollars an hour and they see what other people go through. Immigrants just want a chance to make a life for themselves here in the U.S. and this is a way to show that they are united and they just want to help make America run. Face it, without immigrants, America wouldn’t be where it is today. Almost everyone here in the U.S. knows or should know that their grandfather or great grandfather or even further back, started off as immigrants. Now they are trying to keep out other immigrants? How does the translation of the song offend? The only intent that it was meant to have is to unite, to show Americans that we do exist and that we want to be accepted. You might be saying, “if you want to be accepted, then why would you record a Spanish version of the Star-Spangled Banner?” To show that immigrants (legal or not) help America; that we are a part of America…that we want to be American.

April 28, 2006 at 1:16 pm
(16) Kathi Smith says:

What is America? One country or one Continent?, For Latin Americans America is all the continent from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego, “Somos America” is part to say we are not excluded about being Americans. Some of the singers are Americans from Puerto Rico, being part of US I think they have the right of having the Anthem in Spanish.
There is not official language in US.

April 28, 2006 at 1:18 pm
(17) SSG James R., U.S. Soldier says:

I am not only a U.S. citizen, but I am also a U.S. soldier. I have been to both war campaigns like many others. When I fight for my country I fight for all native born citizens and those who have become citizens in a legal manner. I give no thought to the fact that I am helping to protect someone who entered my country illegally whether they be from Mexico, C. America, S. America, Canada, ect., ect. I have never been racists or prejudice against anyone or anything since I was a young child and didn’t know better. But now, with all of the intolerance shown by illegal immigrants, their supporters and sympathizers towards the UNITED STATES of AMERICA and our laws, I myself have been forced into an intolerant attitude. Keep your traditions and customs and language when you come to America legally, but at the same time you need to have the same consideration for Unted States history, customs and traditions as well.
As far as the the whole “United States Americans will never go out to the fields and work for such a small wage” thing….We have a “minimum wage” standard which should be expected by all legal workers. I was living in Los Angeles Ca and unemployed. I applied for all types of employment, even as a farm worker. When I went directly to a farm, (too impatient to wait for ann e-mail by an employer), I was told that I could not be paid what I am worth(minimum wage). The reason for this is because if they had hired me on and the illegal workers among the employees found out what I get paid, they would have to pay every worker the same and they could not afford to do that. So anyone who says U.S. citizens won’t take those jobs is full of it. When you say that we won’t work for less than the government requires, you are correct in that.

April 28, 2006 at 1:43 pm
(18) Proud American says:

Last I checked, the US does NOT have an official language. This whole nonsense about having to learn english is silly since english isnt our official language. Why dont you all learn another language and stop being so narrow visioned?

April 28, 2006 at 1:56 pm
(19) Steven Guevara says:

First, let me say this part bit on behalf of my hispanic heritage-
spanish is very important to me because it signifies my parents roots and the language of my forefathers.

Now let me talk as a proud American-
My greatest pride everyday is pledging to the american flag (followed by the texan flag, wouldn’t change that for the world!)

As someone has said before me, the anthem is a sign of unity.
First and foremost everyone on american soil is AMERICAN, and
our loyalties lie to this country that has given us all so much.

April 28, 2006 at 1:59 pm
(20) Mike says:

Sure, let’s have the National Anthem produced and recorded in Spanish, right after it is produced and recorded in German, Italian, Chinese, Polish, Irish, Russian, Korean, etc. (please note the sarcasm there). The National Anthem should be in English and English alone. That is the language that Americans use (Americans being from America the county, not a continent). I am also fed up with people saying they are “Mexican American”, or any other type of multi-national citizenship they feel they can call themselves because it is either politically correct, or they can get something out of it because someone did something to their great grandfather. My ancestry traces back to Germany, Ireland, and Poland as recently as three generations back, but I am most definitely an American, and have NEVER once thought of myself as a “Polish American” or a “German American”. I used to say, “Cut me and I bleed red, white, and blue”. True, this country was created by immigrants, note the past tense. Those immigrants became Americans once the founded our country and they let others follow in search of a dream and freedom. We still allow immigrants entry to our country and even apply for citizenship. So I have no pity for those that come here illegally. I also detest feeling like a foreigner in my own country, where everyone around me either can’t, or won’t speak English, which happens quite a bit living in SW Arizona. You are either an American or you are not. Don’t try to have it both ways, don’t try to take advantage of the system, and don’t degrade what our country stands for. If you are American, welcome to the land of the free and home of the brave, if not, get the hell out.

April 28, 2006 at 2:02 pm
(21) James Partsch-Galván says:

AMERICA is from Canada to Chile! 1 Billion Americans! 1 Billion Americanos! I think it’s fantastic that this new American Movement has come up with a creative interpretation of our USA National Athem and also a new flag ( Houston Press April 20-26, 2006. Viva America! GALVANISM, GALVANISMO, GALVANISME, GALVANISMUS

April 28, 2006 at 2:03 pm
(22) Proud American Also says:

Last I checked, it is illegal to enter this country without permission or the proper forms, refuse to learn the main language of our culture (English) and then tell us to learn theirs! Narrow versioned? You need to open your eyes, were being invaded and told what we need to do to make them happy. They have broken our laws and now are dictating to us how we should treat them. This is the whole arrogant point. What gives them this right?

April 28, 2006 at 2:21 pm
(23) Conservationist says:

Why not? I bet is better than listen our anthem changed to rap, hip-hop or any other sub-cultural version every time that is played by our own people (Americans).

April 28, 2006 at 2:22 pm
(24) Ethan says:

Firstly, I think the idea of using a version in Spanish to help immigrants feel like they belong is backwards logic. On the other hand, there’s nothing wrong with retaining a sense of one’s heritage–after all, don’t different immigrant communities still retain some customs and values from their Old Countries? Of course they do, but in a new context and a new framework. Even having reverence for the country where one’s ancestors came from is ok here in the US. However, in the context of trying to integrate into American society, I am puzzled when I see rallies of people waving flags from other countries. That’s not the same as being an Irish american and having an Irish flag in your house, or being a Chinese American and celebrating Chinese New Year. To me, that says “I want to be here on MY TERMS, nor yours.” Sorry, but I don’t think (with the exception of the first settlers, who pretty much set the standard) that any immigrants, whether they be Japanese, Polish, Nigerian, Turkish, etc. got to assimilate on their own terms. In fact, name me one country in the world that allows one particular group of immigrants to do that. The fact is, when my ancestors came to this country generations ago, they did it the way everyone else had to. Through the proceses of immigration and naturalization. EVEN the ones who came from Mexico. It makes me mad, because people need to understand that it is a LIE that Mexicans cant come here legally. And it makes me mad to think that, because of this massive influx of illegals, people might look at any of the people of Central or South American ancestry and just assume that they are illegal. Basically, my point is, if the traditional way of becomming a US citizen was good enough for my Mexican Ancestors, then it should be good enough for these people too.

April 28, 2006 at 2:34 pm
(25) Don Charles says:

I just heard a radio report on NPR regarding this new version of our national theme. George Key is the great-grandson of Francis Scott Key, composer of the “Star Spangled Banner.” George Key is half Latino. HE HATES “NUESTRO HIMNO!” He finds it disrespectful to the original intent of his ancestor, which was to honor the founders of the United States. President George W. Bush has also denounced the song (but where was he when illegals were marching through our streets waving Mexican flags?). The arrogance of illegals and some of their offspring infuriates me. How dare they take such an attitude? To the extent they are thriving here, it’s because of the tremendous opportunity for personal advancement this country offers. Yet they violate our borders in a time of terrorist concern and demand amnesty. They insult native-born Americans by telling us that we are racist and lazy. They try to piggyback on African-American struggles, calling their amnesty initiative a “civil rights struggle” when they aren’t even citizens and when many of them harbor vicious skin-color prejudices. They stay in this country for decades, refusing to learn English, the dominant language. Now they rape our “Star Spangled Banner,” recording it in another language and using it as a political weapon. I want them gone, and I want them gone yesterday! They need to take their arrogance, their braggadocio, their superior attitude, and their disregard for the rule of law and haul ass back to their home countries. The fact that they didn’t stay and fight for a better standard of living in those countries shows how deep their sense of patriotism is NOT. And don’t give me that bull about how illegals are patriotic Americans because some have fought in our wars . . . they join the military for job opportunities just like most working-class Americans do. I am not anti-Hispanic. I think Latinos bring an incredible richness to the United States. They are hard-working. They do have strong family values. Many, if not most, are an asset to our national character. But nobody who feels entitled to ignore our laws is an asset, regardless of their ethnic background. We have enough of such people here already . . . we don’t need more!!!

April 28, 2006 at 2:42 pm
(26) Leif Rafngard says:

The sad fact of the matter is that many Anglo-Americans suffer from a condition called Xenoglossophobia and don’t know it. Xenoglossophobia is fear of foreign languages. Even seeing, or hearing a few words of another language makes these people uncomfortable. It makes me sad that so many people restrict themselves to just one language, and cut themselves off from so many beautiful words.

Many of the people posting here seem to think that anyone coming to this country should speak the language. I wonder how many of them speak Ojibwe, Navajo, Latoka or Mohawk? I doubt it. We are a nation of immigrants: from many plances, with many languages. This is something we should be proud of. The USA has no offical language, and this is a good thing.

I’ve also noticed that the Word “assimilate” is has been used many times. We are not the borg, and this is inappropriate. My ancestors, when they came here from Sweden, gave up their native language. This was unfortunate, as a people soul is in their language. By giving it up, they cut themselves off from who they were. I’ve had to learn it from scratch, but by doing so, I’ve gained something invaluable. I’d highly recomend all Anglophone Americans do the same.

Fortunatly, many new immigrants (whether from Latin America, or elsewhere) have chosen not to cut themselves from their past. I’m glad for them. Please for give my bad spanish, pero si quieran cantar esta cancion in su idioma, yo creo que esta bien. America es ambos continentos.

April 28, 2006 at 2:49 pm
(27) Larry says:

this is the biggest load of mexican crap I have ever heard of. listen and listen well!! when you come to America to become a citizen, you come here to be an American. You learn OUR ways and your adopt our ways. You don’t bring your third world ideologies with you and try to make the rest of us adopt your culture. If you love your damn culture so damn much, GO BACK HOME!!!

April 28, 2006 at 3:09 pm
(28) Anglo says:

Larry you must learn, is not Mexican Crap, singers are from America, yes Puerto Rico is part of USA. A British guy is the producer… which Mexican crap!!!… Go back home? they are at home!!! Remember is not their country but is their home.

April 28, 2006 at 3:16 pm
(29) carol henderson says:

I will start off by saying that I am proud to be an American. I believe that it is totally out of line for America’s National Anthem to be put into Spanish. This is America not Mexico. Perhaps you might think that I have a problem with Mexicans and/or Mexico. That would be totally wrong. All of my children have a Mexican/American father and one has a dad that is from Mexico. I have always taught my children to be proud of their heritage but more than anything to be proud to be Americans. God and country is how it goes. America love it or leave it. My Uncle Sonny was a proud United States Marine that lost his life in World War II. My brothers CW-4 Robert Higgins and Sgt Ernest Higgins fought in the Viet Nam War United States Army. My cousin Ronald Hill United States Air Force also fought in Viet Nam. My son Sgt Samuel Fierro (my hero) is an Iraqi Freedom Vet. United States Marines. How dare you try to disrespect our proud country by turning our American Flag unside down and turn our National Anthem into a joke. We have always fought on foreign soil but with all that is going on in our country today we are heading for a Revolution that will be fought right here in our backyard. Don’t let our men and women that have protected and died for our freedom be put to shame. If Americans don’t stand up and speak now tomorrow may be too late. I do not have a problem with immigrants. Does anyone realize that Mexicans are not the only immigrants in this country. There is good and bad in every race and culture. Why does it seem that the only ones that seem to be trying to take over and change everything though is our neighbors south of the border. I am a Proud American and a Proud Military Mom. I will not just sit here and be quiet. I spent many nights crying for my child that took out of his time and his life to make our country safe and free. America love it or leave it!!!!!

April 28, 2006 at 3:23 pm
(30) Maneesh says:

I am a proud U.S. born citizen with parents of heritage from India. Learning my ancestors culture is very important to me, however, I believe few of us realize how lucky we are to live in such a country with such privelages. My grandparents and uncles and aunts and many cousins immigrated LEGALLY and waited many years, saved thousands of dollars, and worked very hard to come here. They did not have ease of some unprotected border to allow them college admission based on merit not money, or be protected through justice not greed. Thus, our ENGLISH ANTHEM represents all of those things that they worked hard for. Anthems are about loyalty and faith and recognition for the hard work of our founding and building fathers, all of of whom eventually learned and spoke ENGLISH. While it is the right of the people to compose and sing an anthem in spanish, it is not their right to compare it to the U.S.A. National Anthem. Do not disgrace your privelaged live’s by disrespecting what has been so hard fought for. This is not an overreaction, but remember, in this country, and in this country alone, you have those all those freedoms.

April 28, 2006 at 3:38 pm
(31) latinmusic says:

I know that this is a topic that many of you feel very strongly about. A heated debate is the essence of what makes our system great, but there is no reason you can’t express yourself without racial slurs or inappropriate language.

When I see them, I’m going to edit them out of your message so that we can continue the discussion in a more reasonable manner.

April 28, 2006 at 3:39 pm
(32) Pablo says:

It’s amazing to me how hypocritical this country has become. Standards only apply when convenient. Why wasn’t there a similar response when Hendrix played the Star Spangled Banner in protest to the Vietnam War? What these artists have done is give back their interpretation of the national anthem, as did Jimi back in Woodstock. If you apply the same standards then you should be saying first of all that Jimi was ‘the first’ to desecrate the anthem. Isn’t the concept of the USA to promote freedom of speech and expression?

I see all these people saying – How would Vicente Fox feel if we sang his anthem in English… Well folks, frankly I don’t think he’d give a shit. Plus, he’s been a lap dog for the USA just like EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT IN MEXICO from the last 75 years. And this argument just goes to show that people have no clue what they are talking about. What? Immigrants are not only Mexican? People – this is affecting people from ALL OVER THE WORLD. Guatemala, Panama, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Mexico, Argentina, Angola, Nigeria, Egypt, India, Pakistan, Indonesia, Japan, South Korea, Spain, France, Canada… should I continue?

I think we are loosing sight here of what is important for the majority in this country. We need to stray away from what the media tells us are the ‘real issues’. Gay marriage, not a real issue. Get over it. Immigration, not a real issue. The Bush Administration – BIG issue. The war in Iraq – HUGE ISSUE. New Orleans – ENORMOUS ISSUE. People, get off this media brain fart and look at the real issues happening EVERYWHERE, not just in the USA. Go to Darfur, Iraq, Somalia, Palestine, Nepal, North Korea, Chechnya and you’ll understand that gay marriage and immigration are not very important issues.

You know what gets me at the end of the day? We want cheap labor, but we don’t want the people willing to work for pennies to have the same rights as the rest of us. Some say that there are many Americans willing to do the job that these ‘illegal aliens’ take away. For 5 bucks an hour? Yeah, I don’t think so. You want to go out and spend $30.00 on a nice dinner? Then you support immigration. You want to pay pennies for tomatoes, apples, grapes and bananas? Then you support immigration.

There are those who say that immigrants cost billions of tax dollars a year. Well, what those figures so conveniently ignore the billions that are pumped back into the economy in sales, state and income taxes. You think they don’t pay taxes? You are an idiot. You can also argue that there are millions of Americans that refuse to work, and become dependant on the welfare system and also cost the US billions of tax dollars as well. You see, it’s not as black and white as certain news media sources make you believe.

The real issues really come down to what is really going on with the IMF and the Third World. When you look at the way the US and the IMF have looted the Third World, then you will understand why there are millions of people wanting to come to the US to SURVIVE. Think about that folks, before jumping the gun.

April 28, 2006 at 3:39 pm
(33) Antonio S Santiago says:

Hey I’m an American but my first language is Spanish. Let’s see yeah I was raised in Puerto Rico after being born in Germany where my dad served part of his Army enlistment. And right now being only 18 years old I’m serving my country too by being in th Air Force. I think people are stupid by saying Immigrants in everything theres a lot of people that are american like me for instance and in case somebody is dumb and think I’m american only because I was born in an Army base WRONG!!!. Anybody born in Puerto Rico is an american citizen. Like most of you who say that everybody should know English if they come to the States. If is like that then any English speaking american going to Puerto Rico or any other place should learn Spanish before going there, it sounds stupid doesn’t it yeah just like your coment sounded stupid the same way. Thats not my way of thinking is just comparing to the average person commenting on this site. What I want to say is this is not a freaking big deal is just the song chenged to Spanish so what, I think you could sing it in any language you want, really people chill.

April 28, 2006 at 3:39 pm
(34) Feleshia says:

I am so upset that I can hardly organize my thoughts. It amazes me that people are not realizing what is happening here. We’ve been invaded by Mexico! I know this sounds drastic but here me out. They are coming here illegally, right from the start showing disrespect to our laws. People above have stated that there is “no offical” US language. I say that is bull. I can read our constitution, I can read what’s on our money, I can read our street signs, because they are in our national language! Just because we have tried to make the transition to the UNITED STATES easier for you, does not mean you can march illegally into our country, fly your flag, and turn our traditions into some version of your own. I am starting to think we need to go to war against illegals. Are far as unfair pay goes etc, why don’t you come here legally and then minium wage will apply to you. I was tolerant before, but now I am feeling threatened. Not by terriorist but by illegals. My friend in hs immigrated from China and his family gave him an Americanized name! He is still fluent in his own language but he understood to fit into this society you must learn its ways. IF YOU WANT TO BE MEXICAN GO BACK TO MEXICO! If you want to be Mexican-American, well please stay, learn the American way and be AMERICAN!

April 28, 2006 at 3:42 pm
(35) Brian says:

Freedom of Speech–one of the idealogical principles upon which this country was founded. There is absolutely nothing unamerican about expressing your thoughts, emotions, dreams, opions, etc. This is only a recording. noone is trying to pass any legislation regarding this. I have not heard any illegal immigrants asking or telling American citizens that we must officialy recognize this version of the Anthem. America is great, and as Americans we must ask ourselves why. I believe that the freedom of speech that our founding fathers so shrewdly endowed us with is part of it. If we see illegal immigration as a problem, how can we address it? How are our actions contributing to this problem? We also must never lose site of the fact that these people are just that, people. They are human beings, and we should address them and this issue with the dignity and compassion that it demands. We cannot advocate a solution that would deny them any of the rights that we, as Americans, as human beings, would demand for ourselves. I hope that cooler heads will prevail, and that we can find a solution that will appease both sides, a solution that will help prevent the rapes, murders, muggings, accidental deaths, and other misfortunes that immigrants encounter on their journey towards what they believe will be a better life, and also address the security and tax issues that we Americans hold so dear.

April 28, 2006 at 3:45 pm
(36) Chen says:

Only in America!! I am shocked. How can somebody publicly wants a country’s most sacred song (the national anthem) to be sing in different language? Do they know a national anthem is a song that praised numerous brave lives lost for defending their country? It’s a massive insult. How dare anyone justify this disrepect act as for a good cause? Imagine doing such thing in China, I bet you will be permanently vaporized in no time. The bottom line, please don’t mess with national anthem. It’s getting kind of personal for people who have lost love ones in the war.

April 28, 2006 at 3:48 pm
(37) Jessica Uckerman says:

Well I’m a MEXICAN AMERICAN, AND PROUD OF IT!! after reading all these comments, some of them made me mad, for the only reason that once you say immigrants the first thing that comes to peoples minds are MEXICANS, why? is it just because the border is through Mexico, and some of the people who wrote this comments should watch what they said because it’s not only Mexicans that are here ILLEGALLY, if you think about it there are also Columbians, Nicaraguans, Cubans, and much more, but why do you only act racist about Mexicans, but anyways..ISNT THIS AMERICAN? THE LAND OF THE FREE? WHY CANT PEOPLE HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS? IF SOMEONE CAN ANSWER ME THESE QUESTIONS, PLEASE DO SO..

April 28, 2006 at 3:50 pm
(38) mwyland says:

Thank you Maneesh! I so appreciate the people how understand that you don’t just decide to live in another country without respecting its history, and showing consideration for what it took to become the country it is. I would never move to France and then change it to be America. I would become French. Why move to another country if you don’t want to be one of its people? That’s what makes the country what it is, and the history of the country is what makes the people who they are.

It’s such an outrage that they would change the words of the Star Spangled Banner (yes, they did, they didn’t just translate it… for the one paragraph I heard on the news, when the flag was sited.. that paragraph is changed to the point that the emphasis is totally lost), and I can’t fathom that they don’t KNOW that it’s an outrage. Just like hanging the flag upside down, or in California a while back, a group not of this country wanted to change the name of the Martin Luther hospital to a name from their own history. I can’t believe they are that dense that they don’t realize how much they are insulting us and our country.

April 28, 2006 at 4:12 pm
(39) disgruntled says:

Francis Scott Key was on an enemy ship as the war was ending and began writing the poem that second day… When ever I hear the National Anthem, I picture him, and what it was like, the relief that the “flag was still there”. Anyone who’s tried to use the song frivolously has been berated and for good reason. Here’s how the spanish version is worded:

Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn’s early light,
What so proudly we hail as night falls?
Its stars and stripes floated yesterday
In the fierce combat, the sign of victory
The flame of battle, in step with liberty.
Throughout the night it was said, “It is being defended.”
Oh, say! Does it still show its beautiful stars
Over the land of the free, the sacred flag?
Verse 2
Its stars and stripes, liberty, we are the same.
We’re brothers, it’s our anthem.
In the fierce combat, the sign of victory,
The flame of battle, in step with liberty.
Throughout the night it was said, “It is being defended.”
“Oh, say! Does it still show its beautiful stars?
Over the land of the free, the sacred flag?”

It doesn’t really bring home to me the feeling of patrionism. But well I guess the National Anthem wasn’t rewritten for me. Or for anyone that died during those terrible days of bloodshed. It was rewritten to be a tool in a cause. Dispicable.

April 28, 2006 at 4:20 pm
(40) disgruntled says:

That was verse 2, here’s verse 1.

Verse 1

Oh say can you see, a la luz de la aurora/Lo que tanto aclamamos la noche al caer? Sus estrellas, sus franjas flotaban ayer/En el fiero combate en senal de victoria,/Fulgor de lucha, al paso de la libertada,/Por la noche decian: “Se va defendiendo!”

Coro: Oh, decid! Despliega aun su hermosura estrellada,/Sobre tierra de libres, la bandera sagrada?


It’s time to make a difference the kids, men and the women/Let’s stand for our beliefs, let’s stand for our vision/What about the children los ninos como P-Star

These kids have no parents, cause all of these mean laws.
See this can’t happen, not only about the Latins.
Asians, blacks and whites and all they do is adding
more and more, let’s not start a war
with all these hard workers,
they can’t help where they were born.

April 28, 2006 at 4:22 pm
(41) Chelsea van der Mije says:

I am so disgusted by these comments. You all are the kind of people that make me ashamed to be an American, as does President Bush. The fact that you all are so outraged by this song is sick. It’s a beautiful way to convey latin-american patiotism and does not disconvience you in any way. If you dislike it, that’s absolutely fine: don’t listen to it. To Lori Neuman: you and your fellow Nazis are uneducated and repulsive. Dont begin your commentary with the “I’m not racist, I’m american” BS, it’s ridiculous. Unless you are native american, you have little authority to claim this continent as your own. Hispanic people work just as hard, if not harder, than any other race. And to the person who coined the term “third-world idealogies”, what the hell are you talking about? Do you think anyone chooses to be born into poverty? I cried when I heard the anthem. It was very powerful. You should be ashamed of yourselves. I regret having stumbled upong your stupidity and ignorance.

April 28, 2006 at 4:32 pm
(42) Louisa says:


April 28, 2006 at 4:40 pm
(43) disgruntled says:

I totally am unable to comprehend how you can accept the misuse of our national anthem. Evidently, the song does not have the depth of meaning for you as it does for others who understand what the song represents.

April 28, 2006 at 4:52 pm
(44) Ben Rodriguez says:

“There is not official language in US.”

Actually, it’s a requirement to become a naturalized citizen, to be able to demonstrate the ability to read, write and speak english.

April 28, 2006 at 4:52 pm
(45) Wes says:

My question is simple. Since “The Star-Spangled Banner” was written, this nation has seen waves of immigrants from countries around the world; in different times, the “leading edge” of immigration has been Chinese, Italian, Irish, German and others, yet none of those groups felt a need to rewrite, or translate, the National Anthem. Why, then, is this an important thing for the Hispanic immigrants? When these other groups felt the urge to identify themselves as Americans, they learned the language (for the most part) and joined in; they didn’t change the anthem to suit themselves.

It should also be noted that “Nuestro Himno” is not a straightforward translation, but more of a musical interpretation/rearrangement; political chant is introduced (“Asians, blacks, and whites and all they do is adding more and more” is hardly a “national” sentiment, eh?), and the verses don’t bear much resemblance to Key’s original. (Yes, I’m bilingual.) Toss in the fact that any number of nations already have national (or popular) songs named “Nuestro Himno,” and this is a definite loss of US identity.

If immigrants (of any nationality) want my respect, let them do what my immigrant ancestors did – learn the language as best they can and join with the rest of us as best they can. Generations of Americans have followed that very pattern; I see no reason to change it.

April 28, 2006 at 4:52 pm
(46) Andrew Brown-Pearn says:

I take no offence to all of this, if I am not mistaken, we took the tune from an old english drinking song. As far as “native language” is concerned, the United States has never officially adopted a national language (although many states have). Anyways, I thought this country was founded on the notion of freedom, last I checked, that included speach.

April 28, 2006 at 4:53 pm
(47) lana armstrong says:

personally i dont give a hoot. let them do as they please. it’s a free country! damn.

April 28, 2006 at 4:55 pm
(48) Leif says:

Disgruntled, it is not that we don’t feel the same about the anthem, it’s that our feelings are tied to the meaning of the song, not to the words used to express that meaning. Words are simply tools, beautifull, imperfect tools.

April 28, 2006 at 4:56 pm
(49) Raul says:

As a 1st generation American of Mexican ancestry, I’m proud to be a part of a growing bicultural society. But I’m concerned about the media’s direct involvement in these current issues. The release of a spanish version of the Star Spangled Banner is just plain ridiculous. Have you ever heard the mexican “himno nacional” sung in english? Ofcourse not…this is all getting out of hand…it’s a well crafted ploy to make $$$ on the sales of these recordings. there’s already a song out there that has united working people in the past…”The Internationale”…look it up folks.

April 28, 2006 at 4:56 pm
(50) Josh Le Greve says:

I feel a Spanish version of our anthem is completely justified. Doing a simple search on I-Tunes for the “Star Spangled Banner” comes up with a slew of different versions, each with their own unique structure and sound, genre and message. There was gospel, rock, soul, jazz, and even hip-hop. Now, if the Spanish version is “disrespectful” as some say, would not these deviants from the original version also be disrespectful? But no, they do not change the meaning, each stands for patriotism and the joy of being part of this county. And so does “Nuestro Himno”

This version, “Nuestro Himno,” if anything shows desire to be a citizen of the United States, showing respect and desire to be part of the traditions of their patria nueva. Our country was made as a melting pot, for those trying to forge a new and better life, and the melting pot characteristic we hold is what makes our nation so dear to us. Our patriotism is rooted in being a mezcla of people from all over the world, black or white, gay or straight, Hispanic or European or North American.

The truth is, English is not our only language, and is not our national language. I work in an elementary school system, and a large percent of my students speak Hmong, Spanish, Armenian, or some other language. The largest percent of that are Hispanic students. They are as “American” as any of the other students, knowing the Pledge of Allegiance and understanding our basic concepts and values as a society much better than most of the other native North American students. The only difference is they were born into poverty, had no education in any language other than their mother tongue, and simply are striving to have a better life. Almost 15% our population (and that is legal, census counted population) is of Hispanic origin, which is second to only Caucasian (yes it is even larger than African-American population). In true form, Spanish is becoming an integral part of our society and our culture.

“Nuestro hinmo” is not a disgrace, not a protest, nor is it a sign of “anti-assimilationism.” It’s a sign of feeling like part of our community; it’s a sign of becoming part of our culture, contributing to our culture. If anything, it is a gift to us, making us more diverse, making us stronger in our heritage, and strengthening our values as a nation.

April 28, 2006 at 5:02 pm
(51) SSG James R. U.S. Soldier says:

You all have your good arguments and there is credit where credit is due. Here is in my opinion the main point…LEGAL IMMIGRANTS WHO WANT TO COME HERE SHOULD COME TILL THE COWS COME HOME. ILLEGALS (FROM EVERY COUNTRY) SHOULD GO BACK AND WAIT THEIR TIME. AS FAR AS THE SSB GOES….PEOPLE COME TO THE U.S.A. AND WANT TO KEEP THEIR HOME COUNTRIE’S TRADITIONS, VALUES AND CUSTOMS ALIVE (THAT IS GREAT AND ADMIREABLE), BUT IF YOU EXPECT AND DEMAND THAT U.S. CITIZENS RESPECT YOUR TRADITIONS, VALUES AND CUSTOMS….THEN PLEASE RESPECT THE ONES THAT MADE THIS COUNTRY WHAT IT WAS AT THE FOUNDING AND INITIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS WONDERFUL NATION. At this time the laws are what they are, and every decent and honest human being should respect and follow the laws. When you steal, you go to jail or recieve a punishment. When you perform a good and lawful deed, you are rewarded in a some positive manner. if we can all look at the immigration issues and SSB issues as simply as this, I honestly feel we can all reach a common ground.

April 28, 2006 at 5:14 pm
(52) Ben Rodriguez says:

I forgot, I don’t have anything against the song.. While it is a symbol of this country, it’s just a song. The law of this country is really the heart of the debate, and I think both sides stray from that far too often.

Honestly, both sides of the arguement should rethink what it is they are debating. One side is stating that without them the country would fall apart… this is sort of a farce considering the debate isn’t about how the country wouldn’t be here without immigrants, it is about going through the due process of becoming a citizen. However, this has been shoved aside, now that May 1st is coming along, and basically is calling all immigrants to this country (citizens & illegals) to stop working to demonstrate how the country will shut down without us.

How is that going to prove anything, showing the Us that through a buddy system, citizens (that are of the same heritage) are going to FORCE everyone else to break the law? This idea is sick to me. I stand behind anyone wanting to come to the US to seek a better future for their family, their friends, their friends friends, their future children or current children. But guess what, there are laws & regulations to any citizenship process, that not only regulate how many people come to this country at any given time, but also allow for proper placement and living to anyone who has applied, this includes time given to find employment, find a wage, etc.

This is drastically, and has been drastically, thrown out of proportion for years, when ANYONE, hispanic, asian, even white, tries to come to the US and thinks that they are beyond becoming a part of the country (this is very important, as each and every one of us helps this country grow and support itself by becoming a citizen).. Hell, I couldn’t even get a job in any form of job that so-called “fat slob americans” wouldn’t do.. you know why? There are too many god damned people! Good thing I had higher aspirations, or else i’d probably be homeless by now.

There are many reasons both sides are fighting. Let me simply clear this up.

a: side wants in, no matter what.
b: side wants to let people in, but in an orderly fashion (how the law has been, these people become racist)
c: side is in, and wants to help people in, no matter what.

Nice huh? So A wants citizenship, B wants immigrants to obey the law like their parents, grandparents, grandparents did, and C disregards the law, and are citizens, and are believe it or not….

Making the whole situation look even worse for us(latino).

The song doesn’t make a difference. It’s just a sappy way of attempting to show the hispanic support for the United States, but what you aren’t getting is that for “B”, it is actually coming across the same way as saying VIVA MEXICO and waving a mexican flag while screaming “we demand citizenship”. It’s not working, hell, it’s offending a lot of people, that do not look at it as a act of good faith towards the US, it’s turning into the upside down flag to a lot of US citizens..

April 28, 2006 at 5:33 pm
(53) disgruntled says:

Josh, then I am totally confused. I live in Florida and have been told that I need to learn spanish… I was turned down for a job because I do not speak spanish. The owner of the place said that he wanted to hire me but that with all the new people coming into the neighborhood in the last 10 years that speak spanish instead of english, he needs someone on staff to translate. If I were to move to France, I would be completely determined to learn French.

If this song is a sign of them feeling like part of our community, why have I been told to learn spanish? Wouldn’t they feel more like part of our community if they spoke english?

They have complained to the manager of our store that every one that works there should speak spanish. As time wore on, I began to feel alienated because they do not feel any compulsion to switch to english just because I’m standing there. At this same store, it became discouraged to say “Merry Christmas”. This was to be replaced with “Happy Holidays”.

A couple of people have written that we have no “official language”. But I can drive to California from New York and read all the street signs. Our constitution is in English. Ben pointed out that “it’s a requirement to become a naturalized citizen, to be able to demonstrate the ability to read, write and speak english”. So now, because of the sheer number of people coming to our country who speak spanish, they can force us to have to speak spanish if we want to be eligible for the same jobs. How can that seem right?

There are many people that believe that it is a huge insult for them to change the anthem and use it for this cause. If, as you say, it’s a sign of them becoming part of our culture, wouldn’t they know enough of our culture to realize the strength of outrage this would spark? It is like walking into someone’s home and pulling down a picture of one of the ancesters and taking it to a photo shop and having it redone with clothing and hair color.

April 28, 2006 at 5:46 pm
(54) disgruntled says:

oops. That should be “different” clothing. Didn’t mean to give the impression that I have photos of naked ancesters.

April 28, 2006 at 5:47 pm
(55) Jessie Sandin says:

Music is not meant to be translated. It’s not about the language its translated into, its about the original language and the original meaning that makes music special and meaningful. I don’t care if you translate it into 50 languages, the song is still an English song.

Now changing the lyrics on the other hand, is downright wrong, especially if you are going to go on record and state that it is just another language version of a popular favorite.

Italian arias are written in Italian, but have English transliterations so that those unfamiliar with Italian can know what they are saying! The main difference is that the Italian songs are NOT then SUNG in Enlgish!

Subtitles never hurt anyone, and you can translate the SSB all you want, but don’t change it.

April 28, 2006 at 7:03 pm
(56) Mary Straub says:

What’s wrong with singing the SSB in Spanish? Nothing! What’s wrong with hoardes of people traipsing across an invisible border, saying they want a better way of life? Nothing? What’s wrong with hoardes of inconsiderate invaders demanding medical care, education, and low interest mortgages (such as Illinois’ Gov gives)? Nothing! What’s wrong with forcing English speaking NORTH Americans to listen to Spanish babble every time they make a phone call? Nothing! And since Nothing is wrong with all that, and since NORTH Americans could not break any of those silly laws in any other nation of the world, I think the good old liberal USA should immediately throw open the doors of every one of its penitentiaries, fire all judges at once (who needs them anyway?) and disband the senate and congress (they’ve been useless in this issue), and allow every lawbreaker in the USA to enjoy unrestrained freedom – after all, our constitution supports Freedom. Who seconds this motion?

April 28, 2006 at 7:17 pm
(57) Yany says:

I am Cuban and think this has been a very disrespectful act towards the USA.
We immigrants come here for a better living not to change America. We have to get use to this culture. They have butchered the anthem. I’m sure it wouldn’t sit well if an American sang the Mexican, Cuban Or Puerto Rican Anthems in English.

April 28, 2006 at 7:18 pm
(58) SSG James R. U.S. Soldier says:

Viva Mary Straub. Love the sarcasm.

April 28, 2006 at 7:28 pm
(59) El renegado says:


April 28, 2006 at 7:30 pm
(60) Adam says:

I’m sorry…I find it absolutely deplorable that anyone would complain about this “new version.” For the ignorant among us this is a beutiful translation that completely follows the tone of the original…just ordered so that is coherant in spanish. Our forefathers never declared f**king national language for this exact reason–so we didn’t discriminate against new people coming into this wonderful country. We are all immigrants….trace it back…I don’t care who you are…if you’re here….YOUR FAMILY IS MADE UP OF THE DESCENDANTS OF IMMIGRANTS (except the native americans). Open your freaking closed-minded attitudes and realize how beautiful this actually is.

April 28, 2006 at 7:58 pm
(61) Patriot says:

I am deeply offended by the fact that the lyrics of the National Anthem have been changed. It is one thing to translate the existing words into Spanish, but quite another to change the entire meaning of the anthem. I have been in favor of liberalizing immigration laws, but in light of this disrespect by Latinos for the country that has given them a better standard of living than their home country, I now favor stronger enforcement of the existing laws. If you aren’t willing to assimilate as my immigrant grandparents did you should stay home!

April 28, 2006 at 7:58 pm
(62) Joaquin Labrado says:

I’m a second generation Mexican-American, and I have to say this is not an “attack” on Americans. Firstly La Raza is one thing we are, it is our life that we all share. Anyone who says that we don’t melt into the melting pot is just a blunt ignoramous, because if you think about the Europeans that were the FIRST Immigrants, never took the time to learn the native ways. If memory sevres right then the FIRST immigrants killed off the natives and stole land through false trade. On the race issue many see it as a racist bill beacuse sure most immigrants are Latinos but it does nothing for the small percetage that are from other countries, like the Chinese or the many others. It just foucses on us. As much of an American I am, VIVA LA RAZA!

April 28, 2006 at 8:06 pm
(63) mwyland says:

Yany, I feel a little better to know that there are those not from this country that can see the wrong in what’s happening.

Yany, I feel a little better to know that there are those not from this country that can see the wrong in what’s happening.

Mary, I’m a big fan of saracasm used correctly. You done good.

Yes we came from some place else and established an identity and entity based on agreed values, views, standards, and laws. We are Americans. And when other immigrants came to join us, they came here to be Americans. Since the 16th century, we have had our struggles and strifes that shaped who we are today as a nation. And to take something as strongly valued as the National Anthem and CHANGE THE WORDING is something NO American would consider doing. Why are YOU offended that WE are offended? You should be offended also.

I keep seeing people say that we have no official language here. What? Does that mean it’s up for grabs? Since America established itself, our forefathers spent hours (days even?) putting the constitution together, and they meant for it to be used for a long long time. It was written in English. It has been long understood that we speak English here.

Speaking of the consititution, and anchor babies, and conforming to Americanism, check out this link – yes this is a free country but not without its requirements.

April 28, 2006 at 8:40 pm
(64) First_Nation says:

Like many others who have posted, I too am sickened by all the illegal aliens who have come to our shores.

We need to erect barriers and walls to keep them out.

Oh, wait.

We’re 500 years too late.

April 28, 2006 at 9:14 pm
(65) Speakenglishordie says:

I am sick of this trash. Most of the people saying we don’t have a right to angery or ths is chicken little. I am second generation american. What I have seen is that these people want to import their culture and replace ours. I am sick of groups like LULAKK and La Racist. I live in Texas and my property taxes are sky high, because of illegal immigration. I have watched school boards become the playground of radical racial politics. I found these people to be rude and disrepectful. Not a week goes by where they are not committing some violent crime. Why not totally spit in our faces and change the pledge and the flag. This is Cloward-Piven Crisis stratgy

April 28, 2006 at 10:01 pm
(66) really_upset says:

A British producer has decided to change the American national anthem and rewrite the words in Spanish, without regard for a direct translation from the original.

This is so wrong – this is the United States of America, the language spoken here is American English, the Stars & Stripes is our national flag, and the Star Spangled Banner is the national anthem.

If you don’t like what we offer, please feel free to go back to the country of your birth! Take issue with that government on those things you find lacking – leave ours alone!

April 28, 2006 at 10:25 pm
(67) Enrique says:

Get over it folks, all the bitching and complaining isn’t going to do a thing. The song is out and i’m sure a bunch of re-mixes are on the way. There is no stoping it, and there is no stoping fact that in less than 50 years “Hispanics” will be a majority.
Have a nice day…

April 28, 2006 at 11:29 pm
(68) julio says:

Im hispanic and an american too. I can express myself in english y puedo hablar y expresarme en ingles tambien. Why people is making such a big deal!!!!! nobody is saying spanish is more important!!!
“Nuestro hinmo” is not a disgrace, not a protest, nor is it a sign of “anti-assimilationism.” It’s a sign of feeling like part of our community; it’s a sign of becoming part of our culture, contributing to our culture. If anything, it is a gift to us, making us more diverse, making us stronger in our heritage, and strengthening our values as a nation.

April 28, 2006 at 11:40 pm
(69) David Harrison says:

I have nothing against a Spanish version of the national anthem. It isn’t desecration. It’s not The Official national anthem, but it’s still patriotic, and that is the intention. Unlike Canada, in the US when the anthem is played at a sports event or whatever, there is only one language that you get to sing it in. But I still support putting a Spanish rendition of the anthem on a CD and selling it. I’d compare this to Jimi Hendrix’s guitar solo rendition of the national anthem.

April 28, 2006 at 11:49 pm
(70) Roger says:

I heard a bit of the song on a radio station in Mexico via the internet. ¡Dios Mio! It is una canción muy buena. Get over your fears. THIS COUNTRY WAS BUILT ON IMMIGRATION. No puedo esperar comprar mi copia. I think it is beautiful they recorded a version of the Star Spangled Banner. So what they changed some lyrics! Ever heard of FREE SPEECH. It is simply a *version* no one is trying to replace the original. I hope this focuses people’s attention on the immigration issue…

April 29, 2006 at 12:06 am
(71) John Patterson says:

If you can’t sing the national anthem of the United States of America in English with pride, THEN GET OUT.

April 29, 2006 at 12:14 am
(72) Hillbilly_Bill says:

Gosh darn it. If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, then its good enough for me.

God, guns, and guts, that’s what made America great!

April 29, 2006 at 1:25 am
(73) Jorge says:

I think the first thing that everybody needs to understand is that the “new” version of the national anthem did not come at the request of the 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country. We cannot allow it to serve as the voice of all immigrants. The fact of the matter is that this is album is the brainchild of the CEO of a record label concerned with capitalizing on a volitle issue, not immigrant rights. I ask first and foremost that people do not mistake this with the sentiments of all immigrants. I am very confident that many Germans/Mexicans/Salvadorans etc…would take issue with their national anthem being sung in another language.

Having said that, I do not think this should be an issue at all. The point of the song is to celebrate freedom and liberty. The freedom and liberty that grants people the right to burn our flags, talk negatively about leaders, and oh yes, even re-interpret our national anthem. This version does not bastardize (as many comments have noted) the national anthem. For the most part, it is an exact translation of the original, intended to allow those who cannot speak English to understand why we love and cherish being Americans. We have no problem when Rosanne pokes fun at the song, or when Jimi Hendrix interprets it differently. Why is that? Is it because they were Americans, or rather, looked like Americans. The singers on this record are almost all American citizens. Why is this simply viewed as a different interpretation?

April 29, 2006 at 1:42 am
(74) Will says:

Some racists are just afraid that the Spanish version is better, but guess what? We didn’t make a new version to compete with the old version. We made a new version to bring your attention to this situation. The point is not for any of you to judge if it is right to have another version or not. The point is that people know what’s going on. I don’t care how much George Bush tries to say three words in Spanish to get some votes, I think he is racits. C’mon, how is that after 9/11 there are so many restrictions on immigration and Latin Americans have to take pictures and all the embarassing search they have to go through. Why don’t people from England and Spain have to go throught it. There WAY too many more people from the middle easter over there than in Latin America. And I have nothing againt Middle Easter, but I’m just saying people from middle east do all their terrorist attacks and Latin Americans have to pay!!?? I’m just saying instead of judging if the Spanish Version of the star spangled banner is good or bad, concentrate in what broguth about such measure. And at the end this is what it was for, to bring people attention to the unjustice Latinos are going through and please I don’t want to hear somebody saying that we can sing the Spanish Version of the star spangled banner in their respective countries because I’ll say, tell those Pilgrims to sing their version of the Star Spangle of banner wherever they came from! This a country of immigrants, except for Native Americans and even though this is their land, look at how isolated and how much they had to and have been suffering because some Pilgrims invated their land! And don’t tell me that the star spangled banner is holy and all that nonesenses because slavery was after the Star Spangled Banner, so Americans didn’t give a rotten egg about the meaning of the star spangled banner “Land of the free” when they wanted slaves. And now they still don’t, they just want to use it to get rid of the people who have spent all their youth and strength working for them and now are too old to do it and they don’t want them and others are just racist! but don’t want to look bad and they are desperately trying to find excuses and this is one!

April 29, 2006 at 3:33 am
(75) Phillip Jones says:

I am English and not American, but am very interested in hearing all of your views, as we have similar issues over here.
Whether you realise it or not, we are also a nation of immigrants, and have had massive influxes from the Caribbean, the Indian subcontinent, and from Africa. We have been told to ‘adapt’ and accept that not every one can speak English. Our Government bodies publish most of their documentation in over 20 languages and do not expect people to learn English. In fact, we only just recently introduced a bare-minimum ‘citizenship course’ for those who want to naturalise. We are told that we are NOT allowed to fly our flag (Neither the British Union Flag, nor the English St. Georges Cross) for fear of alienating immigrants. We are not allowed to overtly display any forms of our own customs and culture. The Xmas nativity play has in many areas been banned, or at best diluted by characters from other religions added to it.
Our Government cannot, and does not control our borders (and don’t forget that we are an island) and tacitly turns a blind eye to illegal immigrants who work below the minimum wage – because that way, effectively the country DOESN’T have a minimum wage… get it? Businesses do not want a minimum wage and the Government always do what big businesses want – the law is hypocritical.
Personally, I’ve got used to see people walking the street in their national dress and not speaking English. It has made me learn and experience other people’s cultures and has encouraged me to go and visit their homelands. It isn’t the vision of England that I grew up with, it is different, but not necessarily a bad thing.

April 29, 2006 at 11:35 am
(76) It needs to stop says:

I’ve lived in Fl for almost 20 years off and on. Wages have barely increased yet rent has increased to 3 times what it was. Consider this: people that immigrate here will work for less. They have no problem with banding together, 4 or more adults to a 2 bedroom apartment, all working for lower wages. (Orange groves owners are doing well, they don’t have to pay but about 4 bucks an hour to employees.) Renters can skyrocket the rent because 4 or more working adults have no problem with paying, even on lower wages.

Consider that Spanish people who do not want to learn English, don’t have to if enough of them flood an area. Employers are forced to hire people who have the skills needed PLUS can speak Spanish because an area where whites keep moving out because Spanish keep moving in, means that more consumers are Spanish and a lot of times don’t speak enough English. Businesses have to adjust. For the whites that remain in these areas, they have to learn spanish to compete for these jobs.

“Immigrants do jobs that natives won’t do.”

There is no such thing as a job that natives won’t do. Instead, there are jobs that natives aren’t willing to do at the going wage.

In the absence of immigrant labor, wages in those jobs would rise to attract workers.

Our country doesn’t have the resources now to make sure that all the currrent citizens can make a decent living. Immigration will make the poor poorer, but employees are gonna love it, cos it means less payroll expense.

The growth rate of Spanish culture in Florida is high. Soon, I will have to assimulate to their way of life. Learn Spanish, and get 4 to 6 of my relatives to live with me. (Except I’m only going to have 1 child instead of 3 to 6. And that might be a mistake.)

April 29, 2006 at 12:03 pm
(77) Adrian Ledesma says:

Its funny how the racism begins over a song that has been redone in a manner to show that we are all Americans. If we can’t even sing in any other language, why do they call this “the land of the free”? I see this as an excuse for all those racists bastards to talk shit. My parents came here illegally, worked for shitty wages, learned the language and adapted to this so-called America. They became citizens and never quit working to provide for me and my sister. To this day i would love to see any white american do what my hardworking Mexican father And Mother did. They came to this country and made something out of nothing, and to this day we get frowned upon. ME VALE MADRE QUE SE ENOJEN! PINCHES HUEVONES HIJOS DE PUTA AHORRA NOS QUIEREN SACAR, DESPUES QUE VEN QUE LOS HIJOS DE LOS ILLEGALES ENPIESAN HA SALIR ADELANTE, HA PROGRESAR EN ESTE PAIS QUE SIEMPRE NOS HA TRATADO MAL. EL MIEDO ES LO QUE LOS HACE HACER Y DECIR LO QUE HACEN Y DICEN. PERO YO NUNCA VOY A DEJAR QUE NOS HUMILLEN ASI. I AM A US CITIZEN. I AM A MEXICAN-AMERICAN AND PROUD OF IT. ITS THE SMART HISPANIC INTELLECTUALS THAT BRING FEAR TO THESE RACIST BASTARDS. THEY BEGIN TO SEE OUR FACES IN POLITICS AND ON TV AND IT SCARES THEM. ITS LIKE THEY ALWAYS EXPECTED FOR US TO STAY HIDDEN IN THE SHADOWS. WE ARE NOT HIDING ANYMORE. WE ARE PROGRESSING AS A UNITED AMERICA, NOT A WHITE AMERICA.

April 29, 2006 at 12:45 pm
(78) Veronica Ochoa says:

A couple of things must be said…

1. I was born in the United States. My parents are from Mexico and El Salvador… thus I am Mexican and Salvadorian. I find it outrageous that those born in this country (face it sweetheart, you were born here out of luck, not because you are better than anyone else!) seem to think it is necessary to stress that they are “American”. News flash… so are my parents despite them not being born on U.S. soil! Stop being elitist. Is it really that hard to say “I am from the U.S.”?

2. Please define what it means to “assimilate” into “American” culture. Does it mean drinking Coke, singing a long to Britney Spears, eating at Mc Donald’s, and speaking English? If so, then I already do that, thank you very much :) If it means I must give up my first language (SPANISH!), my culture, my way of life, etc… then welcome to a dead end for I will not give that up. How unbelievable… you want people to “assimilate” but the truth is that YOU HAVE NEVER ACCEPTED US. WE will NEVER BE WHITE!!! (Which I am not in the least bit disappointed either. I wouldn’t want to BE anything else but Brown) It doesn’t matter what way you put it, white “America” is intolerant to anything and everything that is “foreign”. For those of you who are people of color and give into this bullshit… shame on you.

By the way… the national anthem should be sung in English… I’ll give you that much. If people come to this country, they SHOULD learn English… but please remember that those that come to this country tend to be the people that are poor in their own countries. In general, they work so hard that they don’t have time to go to school and learn English… I would be furious if people in my parents countries had to learn English just because a sudden wave of “American” immigrants came along… oh no, wait! I forgot! People all over the world ARE learning English! Why is that? Because everyone around the world has internalized colonialism and gives into this “I have to be white” bullshit. Makes my blood boil… young kids in Latin America/Asia, etc. know who the hell SLIPKNOT and LIMP FUCKIN BIZKIT are but remain oblivious of the great artists in on OWN cultures. So fuckin’ shove it! You like to be imperialistic, but when YOU get a taste of your own medicine, you weep and moan.

One more thing… ILLEGAL ALIENS (though I much prefer “undocumented immigrants” since it is a less stigmatized term. Words make all the difference!) are only CIVIL OFFENDERS, not criminals. If you want them to “stop coming” then how about you start practicing FAIR TRADE. You have NAFTA and CAFTA ruining the lives of poor people and consequently they are FORCED to come to this country. Your George Bush piece of shit president- (not to say those in Latin America are any better for they are also puppets of the U.S.A’s interest) is nothing but an idiot. Time to impeach him.

Veronica Ochoa

April 29, 2006 at 12:47 pm
(79) Romperstomper says:

Why stop with the national anthem. Why not rewrite the pledge too. Remember who’s face your spiting in maybe wearing steel toed boots.

April 29, 2006 at 1:05 pm
(80) Keep America Beautiful says:

This is one of the most moving versions of our national anthem I have ever heard beautifully symbolizing the aspirations of people who only wish to be like us.

America’s Worst President has one more thing to be ashamed of.

You can hear it for yourself at the NYTimes website.

April 29, 2006 at 2:19 pm
(81) teresa says:

As a Mexican American I one of the few that crys everytime I hear the national anthem. I am also one of the one who goes out and protest in support of the immigrants. Instead of helping the recording industry is making money and hurting the immigrants. As is the americans think of immigrants as terrorists and trying to change a symbol of America is just showing them right. I hope that this song does not make any money because it will be money that did not help the immigrant in their cause.

April 29, 2006 at 4:11 pm
(82) Rudy Duriez says:

I LOVE America. It has issues, there is racism, corporations have too much power, the media concerns itself with stupid stuff like celebrities instead of talking about what really is going on in the world…but, I believe, America is STILL the best darn country to live in. But America is about the principles that the fathers (like Hamilton, and Jefferson) bestowed upon us. But to say that we are not allowed to have our own version of the National Anthem in Spanish, and declare English the patriotic-official tongue of the United States is idiotic. And Spanish speakers have every right to have the song in Spanish because of the history we have had on this land and country that isn’t recognized.

Many Mexicans have been American since 1848, when Mexico ceded over half its land to the United States. Under the Treaty of Guadalupe, under which this transaction occurred, it was promised that the people of Mexico in the southwest (who then became CITIZENS of America) had the right to keep Spanish as their language, and thenceforth there were two official languages in the southwest: English AND Spanish. So for a period, all laws (and anything official for that matter) were written in Spanish. It wasn’t until radical, xenofobics of the 1900′s that it changed.

Illegal immigration aside, Mexican and Hispanic CITIZENS (yes, Citizens only) have every right to have the national anthem in Spanish. This issue also stretches to bilingual education. ALL children should be thought in English AND Spanish from elementary to high school, at least in the southwest in the lands that used to be part of Mexico. Especially since that’s how the United States promised it would be. Spanish is as every bit American as is English. Come to California and you’ll see it in the names of the streets, the high schools, the cities, in the missions, and in how even non-hispanic ethnic groups have gone out and learned English and Spanish because if its presence in California.

That said though, I think all Hispanics should also know English. English because it is the language of Hemingway (who, btw, didn’t believe in monolinguism, and spoke spanish himself); it is the language of the founders of Jamestown (though Jamestown wasn’t the first town in what is now the United States, the first town was in Florida, and it was settled by the SPANISH); most importantly, it is the language of the American CONSTITUTION. So, yes, all Hispanics need to know English.

But don’t tell us that we have no right to keep our native language, that we have no right to sing it, that we have no right to say the words of the fathers in the language that touchest our hearts the most. Hispanic and Spanish history in the United States is poorly recognized. Spanish is American.

But I don’t agree with this song in particular. The words are LOOSELY translated, they need to be a lot more precise. And the rythm is changed to fit latino beats. This is idiotic because the positions of the beats and rythm of the song is what makes the anthem the Anthem. If there is going to be a Spanish version, it must be done so that there if there were but one band playing, both English and Spanish speakers would be able sing the song in their native tongue, maintain the same melody, start at the same time, and end at the same time.

This is the national Anthem, mediocracy must not be accepted…and this Spanish version of the anthem definitely does not come close.

April 29, 2006 at 4:22 pm
(83) Tucker says:

All four of my grandparents were born in this country, as anti-Semitism in Eastern Europe drove my family here several decades before the Holocaust began. The genocide in Darfur distresses me enough that tonight I am taking an overnight bus eight hours to Washington to join the march. They may not be my color or my continent, but wherever genocide is, I, as a Jew, have to stand up against it. Genocide outrages me.

This morning I was in temple. The three-hour service was almost entirely in Hebrew. The rabbi told us about his recent trip to Israel. At many events, Jews display the Israeli flag and solicit contributions to Israel and Israeli causes.

I am bewildered by the proclamations on this thread that some people feel “outrage” that some people in America speak Spanish and proudly display emblems of their nations of origin. It makes me want to weep. Reserve your strongest feelings of outrage for war and violence across the globe, not for peaceful people expressing pride in America and and perhaps simultaneously in their cultural heritage and nations of origin with the most beautiful words they know.

I feel sickened, not only as a Jew, but as a journalist. One of the dearest principles to me in this country is the First Amendment which grants us freedom of expression. It separates us from France, China, Russia, and many other countries where one can get in trouble for the content or language of one’s speech or the symbols one displays. Freedom of expression is what makes America great. It is dearer to my heart than any flag or anthem. If someone wishes to alter the flag or anthem for their artistic or political agenda, they are exercising their First Amendment right in doing so; and that is infinitely preferable than altering the First Amendment to fit the flag.

Catholic authorities have decreed that it is more important to pray in a language that is understood than to pray in Latin, and many Jewish authorities consider non-Hebrew prayers equally valid to Hebrew prayers. Certainly neither religion would consider translated prayers or scriptures to be sacrilegious or offensive, and would understand that they were offered with the best of intentions. If any language is good enough for God, then why should only one language be good enough for America?

I suspect the one-language posturing mostly comes from people who have not put effort into studying other languages. I have studied Spanish, Italian, German, and Latin as second languages, and can recognize words in Hebrew, Arabic, and Greek. Studying other languages boosts intelligence and is indispensible for fully appreciating history, current global issues, and, of course, poetry. I am an American, but I am also a citizen of the world. That is a responsibility I try to live up to by studying other languages. I see a total lack of humility from some Americans who are actually proud of the fact that they only speak one language. That’s like only being able to see in one color. It is their loss.

I certainly hope that America never bans any language, any words, any expressed ideas or feelings, or any song, poem, symbol, or work of art.

I also hope we learn from the genocide in Europe, from the genocide in Sudan, and recognize racism here when we see it.

April 29, 2006 at 4:38 pm
(84) Rudy Duriez says:

“Monolinguism is a curable sickness.”
- Carlos Fuentes

To my brother above, that was beautifully written, and it couldn’t have been said any better.

P.s. I do think this spanish version is beautiful. It just isn’t the adequate counterpart to the English version though.

April 29, 2006 at 5:56 pm
(85) Evan says:

I lived most of my life in Baltimore, where the Star Spangled Banner was written in 1814 and is taken seriously. I fly the U.S. flag from a flagpole in my front yard in Texas most days and even fly the 15-star-15-stripe Star Spangled Banner itself during the 21 days to honor America in summer and from Sept. 11 to 15 in observance of the Battle of Baltimore.

I have listened to the Spanish version of our national anthem (my Spanish is not good enough for me to judge the English translation I’ve also seen). Opponents of Nuestro Himno should focus on the legalisms involved; by law, the English song still is our national anthem — but I have no problem with Nuestro Himno.

Give Gloria Trevi, Ivy Queen and Tito El Bambino credit: Nuestro Himno takes off from Francis Scott Key’s words. It is a lovingly- and respecfully-written pop song that acquaints our latest newcomers (who have few opportunities learn how hard-fought this nation’s freedoms are) with what happened above Fort McHenry in Baltimore harbor those five fateful and historic days in 1814.

April 29, 2006 at 7:12 pm
(86) E Diamond says:

Ok, ok. I’m just curious about one thing. Wouldn’t it have been a much more poignant political statement to record a simple, faithfully translated and orchestrated Spanish-language version of the Star-Spangled Banner? Bear with me. Although citizens of the US (i.e., “Americans”) have engaged in political-artistic expression from time to time through musical interpretations of the Star-Spangled Banner, see, e.g., Jimi Hendrix, it seems that rarely were these stylistic departures intended to be replacements for the traditional manifestation of the Anthem. That is, an individual could listen to and appreciate Hendrix’s version, while still preserving the traditional Star-Spangled Banner as the work that conceptually is The National Anthem. Nuestro Himno is, in some sense, a cultural interpretation, which, while certainly laden with a strong political message, is not necessarily intended to serve as a replacement of The National Anthem for a particular pervasive language minority. However, once the creators of Nuestro Himno suggest that their intention is to create a replacement of the traditional Star-Spangled Banner for recent Spanish-speaking immigrants, the question departs quite clearly from the Hendrix paradigm. Without taking sides on that question, I merely observe that if the latter were indeed the intention of Nuestro Himno’s creators, then that purpose would have been well-served by drastically simplifying their approach–preserving all qualities of the traditional Star-Spangled Banner except its language. By instead subjecting The Anthem to what amounts to radical musical surgery (an “extreme makeover”, as they seem to be called these days), the creators of Nuestro Himno seem to either be making a statement that (1) their purported project of creating a real-world Spanish language Star-Spangled Banner is a sham, or (2) Latino culture is incapable of developing patriotic pride in a song that isn’t peppered with reggaeton and choruses of trumpets. I’m going to go with (1).

April 29, 2006 at 10:32 pm
(87) Robb Scott says:

Singing the Star Spangled Banner in another language sounds to me like a wonderful way to express your patriotism. Those who are complaining ought to look at the words of the original Francis Scott Key composition, particularly “Land of the Free.” What exactly does “free” mean to you if you don’t recognize how important it is for every individual to express himself or herself? I salute the free spirit of new generations of Americans who obviously understand what this great country is about better than some of those who have been here longer and may have lost touch with that feeling of living in the “Land of the Free”! Sing on!

April 29, 2006 at 11:08 pm
(88) Erik Johnson says:

This nation is quickly becoming bilingual, whether people like it or not. Due to the fact that America has no official language, it is only fair that the latino community can sing the national anthem in Spanish. Although the primary reason for writing these new lyrics may have been in support of illegal immigrants, the translation of these lyrics was inevitable, as the US’s hispanic community flourishes. I do not find this act unpatriotic, because the hispanic community is trying to express their patriotism in a way that is real for its members.

Some food for though: O Canada is sung in French and English, and nobody has a problem with this (they may have problems with the French-Canadian attitude, but I’m sure nobody takes offense to the French translation of the anthem).

April 30, 2006 at 1:01 am
(89) logically says:

Read Theodore Roosevelt’s views on immigrants.

“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith, becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American… There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language… and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.” — Theodore Roosevelt, 1907

Does any one understand the reason Theodore said there can only be one flag here? I barely remember but one reason is… What if we ARE under attack from, oh say Russia. If our Russian immigrants did not pledge loyalty to the US upon citizenship, how could they be trusted to go into battle? It’s very necessary that we are unified.

I tried to explain to a non english speaking person last week “Hang up the nozzle on the gas pump so I can set it” I used hand motions and he did not understand. How can people accomplish things and communicate if there is not a common language?

April 30, 2006 at 1:24 am
(90) JS says:

I do believe the writer of our national anthem, Frances Scott Key, wrote this song in ENGLISH and was meant to be sung in ENGLISH. Now, if there were any footnotes on the piece of paper he wrote it on, saying anything about the anthem being sung in any other language, I sure the hell want to see it!

April 30, 2006 at 1:30 am
(91) logically says:

Rudy and Tucker… I just want to thank you both for being very articulate, and level headed. I’m impressed by the clarity (possibly due to a unique vantage point?) that you guys have of the situation. I saw your comments after I had already put in mine, otherwise, I wouldn’t have sent in a comment at all, but instead I would have taken some time to let your words soak in.

After reading so much emotional upheaval, it’s a good feeling to read words of fact, logic, and insight.

April 30, 2006 at 2:05 am
(92) joe says:


April 30, 2006 at 2:14 am
(93) Jee says:

I am NOT an American, nor a Mexican.
If the national anthem of my country would be sung in any other language than mine, I would feel truly honored. Why not? Before spitting on “immigrants’” faces, look at yourself; you are one of the immigrants in the end, aren’t you?
BTW, Paul, in #12, you need to learn better English, perhaps with the immigrants that you’re so against. You should use “are” after a plural subject.

April 30, 2006 at 3:22 am
(94) Joseph says:

Wow, I accidently ran across this site while surfing the web. All I can say is that I am truly astounded by the comments that I read here. The release of this song has truly stirred up some emotions. Personally, I think this is just an attempt by a record label to make some money. By the way, here are some interesting facts. The Star Spangled Banner did not become the official National Anthem until 1931. And, incidently, the Star Spangled Banner was composed to the tune of a British song called “To Anacreon in Heaven.”, that was sung by high-society during social and drinking encounters. Oh, and interestingly, before the Star Spangled Banner, the national anthem was “My county tis of thee” which incidently is another interpretation of another British song, “God save the Queen” which is the British national anthem. Over the years, there have been interpretations of the Star Spangled Banner by Jimmy Hendirx, Jose Feliciano, Marvin Gaye, Aerosmith and even Roseanne Barr. All these generated controversy in their day. So what am I getting at, the new “Nuestro Himno” song is just another interpretation. From reading some of the comments above, I got the impression that some people believe that the Star Spangled Banner is being re-written in Spanish and taken to heart by anybody who understands spanish. The fact is that this happens to be hip-hop version sung by puerto ricans, a cuban-american, a haitian american, one mexican, and some latin New Yorkers. Some spanish speakers do not like hip-hop so it will probably not go over well with some. Personally, I speak Spanish and I prefer the English Star Spangled Banner. As far as my opinion over the whole immigration debacle. It is not fair to blame people who come to this country seeking work and a better way of life. Sure, they came here illegally, but also the american capilalist employers are to blame for their reliance on cheap labor. And, also we need to blame the government for their lack of enforcement of existing immigration laws. Yes, these illegals broke the law. But how many of you also break the law everytime you exceed the speed limit or fudge the numbers on your taxes. Whatever the solution is, I hope that it is humane and respectful of those who come to this country seeking nothing more than to provide for their families a better way of life. The fact is that this country will always rely on cheap immigrant labor. Both of my grandfathers came to this country as braceros (contract workers) in the 40′s to harvest the crops in the San Joaquin Valley, and my father came to this country in the late 50′s, as a bracero. He remained a contract worker for 7 years before he decided to become a permanent resident. I also think that building a wall along the border would be complete waste of money. The only people benefiting from this will be the companies receiving the government contracts. People will just find another means to get in, like digging tunnels, or over the sea. Recall, that there are Haitians and Cubans overcoming the odds of crossing the ocean to get into South Florida.

April 30, 2006 at 3:57 am
(95) Joseph says:

Just one more comment… It seems that throughout the history of this country there has always been a backlash against immigrants during times of crisis. If you research U.S. history, you will find that the irish, chinese, japanese, and even the mexicans have been victims. I don’t know if it’s Racism or just the need to focus blame on a particular group of people during times of crisis. In my personal family history, my grandmother was born in Nebraska of Spanish-Mexican parents but they were forced to flee to Mexico during the Great Depression because of the backlash against “Mexicans” during the depression.

April 30, 2006 at 4:10 am
(96) Joseph says:

Sorry, just wanted to make a correction on a post I read earlier, #88 by Erik Johnson… The Canadian National Anthem was composed in 1880 by a French Composer in French, and was later translated into English.

April 30, 2006 at 9:57 pm
(97) Maria says:

I’m South American by birth and American (USA) by nationalization. I feel ashamed at the bad taste of some Hispanics for translating the American Anthem into Spanish . I wonder what the reaction of the people in any of the Latin American countries would be if foreigners translate a national anthem into any language to request a permit to stay!!!

May 1, 2006 at 12:38 am
(98) Jose Can You See? says:

To all those who think that deporting 12 million illegals is an impossible task, let’s do the math.

The capacity of 1 bus is 40 illegals.

12,000,000 illegals divided by 40 seats per bus is 300,000 total bus trip from all corners of our country.

Say we fill 500 busses per day (remember, this is from across the entire nation), that’s 20,000 illegals deported each and every day.

That means that we could have the 12,000,000 illegal, arrogant, ungrateful, rude, nasty, criminal, culture destroying parasites deported in 600 days.

That’s less than 2 years time under ideal conditions. It will however, probably take more time than that to round them up since they will certainly go into hiding.

So lets not hear any more talk about the impossibility of deporting 12,000,000 illegal aliens.

Also, lets not worry about the cost of our vegetables and lawn care going up. The savings in taxes and health care cost will more than offset the extra cost. Besides, wages and employment will go up and more taxes will be collected from legitimate workers. We (US AMERICANS) benefit all around.



May 1, 2006 at 4:12 am
(99) mercedes says:

I was reading through these comments and have several things to state. First of all, I wanted to clear things out, mexicans did not change the national anthem, it was puerto ricans. Mexicans did not ask them to do it, it was a Brittish man. Stop pointing the finger on the immigrants. With that being said I wanted to state that the national anthem IS NOT something you should go about changing. Yeah I see that it was done with no harmful intention towards the immigrants who are fighting for their cause, which is to be seen as human beings. But it did do this. It is like going somewhere else and changing their national anthem, you just dont do things like that period. Why? Because the national anthem represents the United States WHEN they got their independence. It represents them and lets be realistic the 13 got their independence from England, not Spain. I am mexican and I am outraged at this. I know I would hate for this to happen to Mexico’s national anthem, and, because of this, I can completely understand the americans being upset. I am too, you just don’t do things like that. There was no need for that. Now who will suffer the consequences, the immigrants that had NOTHING to do with this because let’s just remember that Puerto Ricans are part of the US. STOP TRYING TO HELP BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT. Stop blaming everything on illegal immigrants. They come here illegally because it is hard to get a permit to come. Do you think they have fun risking their lives and leaving all they had to come to a country? Of course not. Many have died trying to cross the border and it is extremely hard. If we are the country of opportunities, why aren’t we giving it to everybody? Let’s not forget this is a country founded by immigration, both legally and illegally. I would like to see you in the fields working for $2 an hour in the hot sun for endless days without rest. Trust me it is not something fun, but they are looking for something better. We are all human beings, not animals that you can just try to push aside. That is called fear. Let’s also not forget that they pay a lot of taxes and do not get anything back, instead when they do their taxes (which some do) they have to pay even more. They contribute a lot to society, it is about time we do something to thank them, even if they did violate the law.
But do not blame them because some puerto ricans decided it was time to change the national anthem. They had nothing to do with that stupidity.

May 1, 2006 at 1:20 pm
(100) francisco says:

hi im puertorican but im pissed off not change the anthum

May 1, 2006 at 2:39 pm
(101) MDiaz says:


You’re so wrong about who it was that started this. This was all started by a British person, probably looking to cash in. The singers include Mexican pop diva Gloria Trevi, Puerto Rican reggaeton Ivy Queen and Tito El Bambino and other Latino artists. As for the problem of illegals itself, truth be told the people who are to blame here are the idiots organizing this whole mess. I don’t have a problem with Mexicans, or any other immigrants. My issue is not about race, that would be dumb I’m latino.

I think the problem here is that a few idiots, and you know who you are, are ruining it for everyone. So SHUT UP!. Stop saying stupid stuff like “Go home” or “Lets take over the White House” or “my parents came here illegally but they didn’t do anything wrong”. And finally the one that pisses me off the most, “We had the land first”.

What we should be doing is figuring out how to solve the problem instead of pointing fingers and calling names. We have a real problem here. There are hundreds of thousands of people coming every year, that we don’t know about. We need to stop that. Especially if they’re not looking for work.

Of the 12 million plus already here, what do we do with them? I for one say we treat it on a case by case basis. Keep the ones with a family that have been here the longest, and send the rest back.

Finally how do we prevent people from being enticed to come here. Start enforcing lawas already in place for companies that hire illegals. Fine them some crazy amount like $100K for each illegal. You’ll see how quickly things will change.

As for Tucker. I’m a Latino, who does speak Spanish and English. I have no problem with anyone speaking Spanish. The problem is that English is the unofficial language of the US, and in certain parts of the country if you walk into a store you might be forced to speak Spanish. The majority of Anglos or Gringos get upset when they cannot be understood in their own country. I simply switch to Spanish.
But you could see how annoying this is since if I were to visit France or Italy I would be expected to speak the language.

As for the Anthem it was written in English and should remain and English, and anyone seeking to be accepted as an American should learn it in English.

May 1, 2006 at 8:17 pm
(102) Mr. Americano says:

A few things:
1) NOBODY ever said, “hey Latinos, let’s REPLACE the national anthem with this song, just for US, and down with the white man!” But, that’s how you idiot redneck “patriots” are taking it. It’s like Hendrix’s national anthem, it’s simply another version, not a replacement, and if anything, it reflects American pride – BUT, from immigrants’ POV, which you can’t handle, because you’re too stupid and racist to see it.
2) Whatever authentic American culture USED to stand for has been forgotten – NOT by the brown man, BUT BY WHITE PEOPLE! Quality, integrity, acceptance, tolerance, compassion, strength, etc., have all been forgotten by a bunch of fat-ass, NASCAR-watching, cheesburger-chomping, Bush-supporting, FOX News watching IDIOTS, all sitting around waiting for the Rapture!!!
3) The “traditional American culture and values” you are always whining about DOESNT EXIST ANYMORE because YOU LET IT DIE. So, don’t be surprised when Hispanics, who actually WORK HARD, have REAL FAMILY VALUES, and have an AUTHENTIC, REAL, STRONG CULTURE start taking over. It’s basic math, the weak culture dies, and the strong culture takes over. And if you don’t like that, Anglos, you’ve only got yourselves to blame. Have a nice day!

May 1, 2006 at 8:59 pm
(103) IsBigot says:

In reference to Post #98 Jose Can You See?. Why bus these illegals when you can transport more of them by stuffing them into cattle cars. Why not?? This was done in LA in the 40′s after the zoot suit riots. However, No way in hell I’m going to pay more for vegetables. In the end, it’s work out though because the agricultural businesses will just switch to importing fruits and vegtables from Chile and China

May 2, 2006 at 1:42 pm
(104) MDiaz says:

Mr. Americano you don’t know how far off the mark you are. If for any reason the American values you so childishly ridicule are dying off it is because of the “Do as I want” attitude permiating this country.

If this country is dying it has more to do with the total disregard for God’s law and the attempt to suppliment it with man’s law. We read in our Bibles “Don’t Kill” but we weaken our laws in place to keep that from happening so that killers are free to roam the streets to kill again.

We read don’t sleep with your neighbor’s wife, but the family unit is weaker now than it has ever been, and our attitudes towards sex and family are treated with the typical what’s in it for me attitude, instead of something to treasure.

We read don’t steal, but if you had your way people would be allowed to steal citizenship simply because they came over here.

Truth be told if this country listened more to the “idiots” waiting for the rapture it wouldn’t be in the mess it is today. Why? Because these are the same “idiots” that preach love your neigbor, feed the hungry, care for the sick and honor your mother and father.

As for the REAL FAMILY VALUES you speak of if they don’t fall in line with God’s values then they’re just as useless as the one’s we’re creating, and you can keep them.

May 2, 2006 at 1:58 pm
(105) MDiaz says:

This is the true Anthem in Spanish.


Why not just sing this if they wanted to? Why change it?

May 2, 2006 at 5:56 pm
(106) Samatha says:

I think that what they are doing is RIGTH!!!!! they wouldnt be doing this if we they were illegal to this country!!there not crimmals!all they want is to get more money because there countrys are poor!

i think united states is stupid. because puerto rico belongs to the us ,and rigth now they are going throw hard prombles.they ha to close down schools becauce their country is so poor.But what the fuck is us doing nothing!!!!!!!

and do yous know whats wost WHITE peolpe get payed more than everyone else!and the hispanics work WAY MORE than WHITE people no lie!!

Im not hispanic im 50% Polish and 50% Ireland.But my parnets let me at age (10 months).and now my parnets are hispanic and im VERY PROUD!!



May 2, 2006 at 8:23 pm
(107) Mr. Americano says:

Nice try with the Bible-thumping bit! Just keep sitting around waiting for the rapture, I’m sure it’ll be any day now….I’ll be sure and laugh at you each day that He doesn’t come back, and You keep growing cobwebs on your La-Z-Boy while you eat Funyuns and watch the 700 Club with all your friends! HA HA HA HA!!!! You know, the funny thing is that if the J-man ever did come back, he’d slap the shit out of you, and people like you. You denigrate Jesus’ message, actually, you mean-spirited, evil, hypocritical, narrow-minded moron. Guess what? The idiots are losing, the xenophobes are losing, the SuperChristians are losing, YOU are losing, and I’m laughing my ass of at you! HOO HOO HOO HEE HEE HAAAAA!

May 4, 2006 at 1:20 pm
(108) MDiaz says:

Mr. Americano I’m sorry you feel that way. I don’t take pleasure in the fact that most of the world is starving while the US prospers. Nor do I feel that I am being “mean-spirited, evil, or hypocritical”. But I guess when you have nothing but meaningless sayings to back your point it’s easier to resort to name calling than actually having an adult conversation.

I am not a xenophobe since I am not fearful of anyone else of another culture. Nor am I fearful that another culture will add problems to the US. What I don’t appreciate is the constant disregard for any laws, which has become the norm in this country.

Crossing the border without going through the proper channels is a blatant disregard for our immigration laws. Those laws were put in place for two reasons. The first and most obvious one is security. If we don’t know who is coming in and out of our country then anyone with any agenda can come through, do the damage and leave.

The second reason is financial. In order to provide certain benefits to the CITIZENS of the country we need to know exactly how many are here. Everything from schooling, police and other social programs are based on numbers. Keep up with me now this might be hard to follow. If the budget is set for X amount of people and the taxes are collected to cover those people then stretching the budget to accommodate Y will leave everyone short. A perfect example of this is the hurricanes which hit Florida 2 years ago. FEMA decided to give money for those affected by the hurricane. Food stamps were offered to EVERYONE who met the financial limitations. How much was given was based on family size and yearly income. Without an accurate number or census how exactly was FEMA to budget for this?

I am not a racist. Being a Latino myself I could hardly say anything against the culture in which I was raised. I was taught to help those less fortunate, and try to when finances allow. At the same time there are several CITIZENS in this country that go without, and I don’t feel that it is fair for others to benefit while fellow CITZENS starve. But you will probably read this and open up with another barrage of insults.

Finally, your claim that Christianity is losing is so wrong and I hope you see the errors of it before it’s too late. Christianity cannot lose because Christ has already won.

May 4, 2006 at 6:46 pm
(109) Mr. Americano says:

Hey MDiaz,
Once again, nice try, and way to twist my words around! I never said Christianity is losing, I said SuperChristian idiots are losing – there’s a BIIIIIGGGG difference! On the one hand, you have Christ’s message, which is a good one, and open to all people…on the other hand, you have a bunch of mean-spirited, narrow-minded, anti-intellectual, bigoted control freaks, who masquerade as oh-so-loving “Christians”, but in reality, their hearts are full of fear and hate (which is to me about 99% of the evangelical right-wing movement) AND….they BLASPHEME GOD, because they WASTE GOD’S MOST PRECIOUS GIFT, which is the GIFT OF INTELLIGENCE. Instead, the SuperChristians point their fingers at everyone, tell everyone that they’re going to hell if they don’t agree with them, and generally waste their lives by praying for armageddon to hurry the hell up and get here. Let me tell you, it’s not liberals like myself that hate God and hate America, it’ s the SuperChristians!!!!!

And then, when people like me attack YOU, you guys respond by saying that we are attacking Christianity and America! IT’S NOT THE SAME THING! DO YOU GET IT NOW? DO YOU GET THE DIFFERENCE?

Listen, God and Jesus don’t need the petty, empty flattery that you heap upon them that you mistake for actual worship. Grow up, MDiaz, use your brain, it’s a gift from God, and leave your ridiculous right-wing Christian beliefs behind, if for no other reason than to start honoring the Christ you profess to know. Christ was the ultimate liberal.

We’re getting a little off track here…oh yeah, illegal immigrants! Why is it that you Super Duper Christian Patriots out there like MDiaz always attack the little guy, the poor immigrant who seeks nothing more than a better life, when the real culprits are AMERICAN BUSINESS OWNERS WHO HIRE THE ILLEGALS IN THE FIRST PLACE??? IF IT WEREN’T FOR THE BUSINESS OWNERS (generally a white, conservative group for the most part) TRYING TO STRETCH OUT THEIR PROFITS A LITTLE MORE BY BREAKING THE LAW AND HIRING ILLEGALS FOR CHEAP, WE WOULDN”T HAVE THIS PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE WOULD WE??? So who you we attack? THE POOR IMMIGRANT, OF COURSE! How, Christ-like, MDiaz! Shame on all of you.

May 5, 2006 at 8:40 am
(110) MDiaz says:

Mr. Americano

And once again you twist my words. If you read posting 101 you’ll find that I’m not for shipping back every illegal. You’ll also find that I think that quite a few should remain.

“Of the 12 million plus already here, what do we do with them? I for one say we treat it on a case by case basis. Keep the ones with a family that have been here the longest, and send the rest back.”

In addition to that, reading a bit further you’ll find that I too believe we should hit the employers and stop the problem at the source.

“Finally how do we prevent people from being enticed to come here. Start enforcing laws already in place for companies that hire illegals. Fine them some crazy amount like $100K for each illegal.”

I am not against immigrants. I am against illegal immigration. It puts a strain on us financially, and is a huge security risk.

I don’t care who is coming over the border illegally be it Mexicans, Venezuelans, Hondurans… My fear is the nut job with a nuke that wants to take out a city.

As for Christ you’re right. He was the ultimate liberator(so I changed it). He liberated us from paying for a sin we committed. Does that mean that we can keep on sinning? No it doesn’t.

Jesus hung out with hookers and thieves and liars and pretty much the lowest of Jewish society. And he pointed the finger at the elite. Was it because they weren’t following the law? No it was because they had missed the point. They were following the letter of the law while their hearts showed contempt for everything the law stood for.

I don’t care what the “Right-Wing” is doing. I have no wings left or right. My views are shaped by my belief in Christ. There is nothing mean-spirited, narrow-minded, anti-intellectual, or bigoted about wanting to know who crosses your borders.

As for the song, which is the purpose of this page. It’s been translated into Spanish already. Why not choose one of those translations which kept the general idea of the song in tact?

May 5, 2006 at 9:09 am
(111) MDiaz says:

One last thing. If anyone is to blame for the problems the immigrants are having it’s the idiots who orgainize them, most likely US citizens who don’t think.

The message changes depending on where you are. In LA you have morons screeming stuff like “It’s our land we’re taking it back” or “We’re on our way to taking back our beloved Mexico”.

In NY you have people causing problems in the streets.

The leader is going on national tv saying he wants full amnesty for every illegal in the US.

This is not how you ask forgiveness for breaking a law. All they’re going to do is anger most of the US by demanding anything. If I were an immigrant I’d be standing there with a sign saying “I love the US, and I just want the best for my family. Let us have the chance to prove ourselves.”

Not “We do all the work anyway” or “Americans are too lazy to do what we do”

All these people are doing is creating anti-immigrant sentiment. I didn’t even care about illegal immigration until I saw nuts like La Raza, MEChA and other groups saying they want to take back their country, and I saw Jorge Rodriguez demanding equal rights. Then I realized all that seperates us from some crazy muslim holding a nuke is a small stretch of land, which doesn’t even have a decent fence.

May 6, 2006 at 1:36 am
(112) Mr. Americano says:

Hey MDiaz,
Maybe we’re not so far apart, you and I. But, there are some things I would like to suggest to you 1) Don’t worry so much about the MEChA nutjobs and all those reconconquista types. California is full of fruits and nuts, and they make a lot of noise, but like I told someone else here, you’ve got about as much to fear from them as you do the UFO cultists in La Jolla and geriatric Black Panthers in Oakland. They’re just a bunch of wack jobs, so don’t take the bait, like the right-wing media does all the time. They’re not worth it. This brings me to 2) you are too concerned about “creating anti-immigrant sentiment” and too worried about what the average American thinks about the brown man it seems to me. Believe me brother, the brown man is never going to be fully accepted by anglo society, so put your energy elsewhere. Legal or illegal, mexican or cuban or prican or what have you, it doesn’t matter, you can be a janitor or a multimillionaire, they still don’t want your brown ass in their country club, so don’t worry about “images”, cause it aint gonna do any good. 3) You ask why didn’t the musicians didn’t just use one of the already existing spanish versions of the anthem. The answer is, they are musicians, it’s their JOB to interpret songs! What’s the big deal? People always get so upset over the smallest things, like Mohammed cartoons. It’s this kind of mentality that led to 9/11, getting upset over somebody’s sacred THING and then going out and killing someone over it in the name of God and Country. It’s just a song, I know it’s the national anthem, but it’s just a song. Be not upset ovet trifiling things like symbols, be upset about stupidity, like the stupid honkies who heard the song and said, in this message string, “this is the worst piece of mexican crap I have ever heard”. Holy crap, what ignorance, to say that this is a “mexican” song! Most of the singers are from PRico, which last time I checked, is part of the USA. I’m not for illegal immigration either, but what this whole song and the marches brought to the surface is that most white americans are ignorant, mean-spirited xenophobes, led by their Godly Ruler King George, and if you’re brown, you’re the enemy at worst to them, and at best you are nothing but a wetback, and they don’t want you here, even if you’re born here like me, or you.

May 6, 2006 at 8:43 am
(113) josecanusee says:

While you people are debating, did you ever stop to think that the 9/11 terrorists were HERE ILLEGALLY? They overstayed their visas, which makes them illegal aliens. There is no job shortage in Mexico. Look at Allan Wall’s website. He’s an American living in Mexico, working in Mexico, and married to a Mexican. There are jobs in Mexico…..but there is not welfare, there are not jobs that pay the wages (even though they’re low by American standards) that illegals can make here. They send a good portion of the money they make back to MEXICO, which enriches their economy, but does nothing for us. What about the disease that they bring in? In the 24 border counties, TB is rampant…is THAT humane, to expose American citizens to diseases that were previously eradicated in this country?
Look, bottom line is: The US USED to be a country where the “rule of law” was the order of the day. That is no longer the case. The rule of law is what separated us from the lawless Third World countries (like Mexico), where overpopulation is rampant, everyone is corrupt, human life has no value, and there is no middle class. We are engaged in a war right now……and when the first nuclear attack takes place, I wonder what you people (IF you’re still alive) will think about the “rule of law”, illegal aliens, and our open borders THEN.

May 8, 2006 at 2:05 am
(114) Mr. Americano says:

I think you’re right, josecanusee, except that once again, no mention is made of your precious “rule of law” being applied to AMERICAN BUSINESS OWNERS, who are the ones HIRING the illegals, who are to blame for the root cause of the problem. I know, it’s hard to attack a bunch of white, good-ole-boy, golf-playing, church going, upstanding American businessmen…when you can attack a poor brown immigrant instead. And, for good measure, you can compare the people who wash your dishes and cut your lawns and clean your Wal-Marts to the next crazy Islamic nuclear terrorist! Way to go! I don’t think most reasonable people are actually FOR illegal immigration, I know I’m not for it, that would be stupid. But, if the RULE OF LAW is so damn important to you, then why do people like you waste your time bitching about low-wage workers, instead, you should be petitioning your government to APPLY THE RULE OF LAW, and start ENFORCING IT ON THE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO HIRE ILLEGALS, and recurit more border patrol officers and stuff like that. It’ll take a lot of money, and if we don’t spend it all in Iraq promoting “democracy” (yeah right), then maybe we can spend it here instead and promote the rule of law. But first, please kick your habit of blaming the poorest and brownest people you see and blaming the whole thing on them. Gracias!

May 8, 2006 at 11:26 am
(115) Don "Stuffed Animal" Charles says:

Illegal immigration from Mexico is a foreign policy problem. Nothing the United States can do on its own will solve it. I firmly believe that most illegal Mexicanos would have preferred to stay in their country of origin were it not for the horrendous economic conditions. I can sympathize with their plight, but at the same time, I can’t get ready for people using our national borders as a subway turnstile. Bush and Fox must be pressured to join forces and fix this problem. If they won’t do it, their mangy asses need to be put out of office to make room for leaders who exhibit real leadership. As for “Nuestro Himno,” it was a bad idea that I hope people will soon forget about. Some Spanish-language stations aren’t even playing it because it offends their listeners.

May 8, 2006 at 2:03 pm
(116) MDiaz says:

I don’t believe that the average American won’t accept latinos. While it is true that some part of this country is racially biased, a larger part is monitarily biased. Most anglos that I’ve spoken to have great things to say about the migrant worker. “They work hard”, “You don’t have to be on top of them all of the time”, “They actually show up for work”

While these are not all of the attributes of the typical migrant worker, they are attributes that have not gone unnoticed. I’ve had people tell me that they love hiring migrants because they out-perform their anglo counterparts.

Where we tend to collide is not at work, but socially. Most latinos will not be seen as anything other than gardener, construction worker, fruit picker… until they start aquiring wealth.

What distinguishes people here is money plain and simple. The Italians did it, the Cubans have done it, and they both have darker complectioned people in their mix. The main difference is how they arrived and a willingness to assimilate.

Some will say that going to Miami is like going back to Cuba, but the same could be said for parts of NY and Italians.

It’s all about what you do when you’re here. If you manage to gain enough wealth you will be accepted. Is it fair? Is it right? No, but it is how this country runs.

I don’t like the world I’ve been born into, but I accept it for what it is, and try as best as I can to change it.

Society is in it’s current state because of the sinful state of man. When you look at it from God’s point of view, where we’re all sinners in need of a savior, humanity becomes equal.

When you look at it from man’s point of view, where money is the only god some acknowledge, then there is a great inequality among us.

May 9, 2006 at 9:01 pm
(117) josecanusee says:

think you’re right, josecanusee, except that once again, no mention is made of your precious “rule of law” being applied to AMERICAN BUSINESS OWNERS, who are the ones HIRING the illegals, who are to blame for the root cause of the problem. I know, it’s hard to attack a bunch of white, good-ole-boy, golf-playing, church going, upstanding American businessmen…when you can attack a poor brown immigrant instead.

And, for good measure, you can compare the people who wash your dishes and cut your lawns and clean your Wal-Marts to the next crazy Islamic nuclear terrorist! Way to go!

I don’t think most reasonable people are actually FOR illegal immigration, I know I’m not for it, that would be stupid. But, if the RULE OF LAW is so damn important to you, then why do people like you waste your time bitching about low-wage workers, instead, you should be petitioning your government to APPLY THE RULE OF LAW, and start ENFORCING IT ON THE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO HIRE ILLEGALS, and recurit more border patrol officers and stuff like that.


It’ll take a lot of money, and if we don’t spend it all in Iraq promoting “democracy” (yeah right), then maybe we can spend it here instead and promote the rule of law. But first, please kick your habit of blaming the poorest and brownest people you see and blaming the whole thing on them. Gracias!


May 9, 2006 at 10:22 pm
(118) josecanusee says:

Six Arrests in East Palo Alto Drug Raid

EAST PALO ALTO, CA (KCBS) — A sizable methamphetamine lab has been shut down and six men were arrested after it operated just blocks from the East Palo Alto Police station.

KCBS reporter Tim Ryan says the trail to the lab started with unusually large purchases of pseudoephedrine capsules in Soledad.

Thirty officers raided a home in East Palo Alto Friday and they confiscated tens of thousands of the tablets enough to make almost $550,000 worth of methamphetamine.

Also seized in the police action were eighteen guns, some of them illegal. “These are the kinds of weapons that would contribute to the fifteen homicides last year and so the streets of East Palo Alto are definitely safer today,” said Police Chief Rob Davis who showed off the confiscated drugs at a news conference Monday.

Five pounds of meth were shown and four bags of cocaine worth about $46,000.

The arrests that happened Friday were without incident despite all of the weapons.

The lab itself was a fortress of concrete walls, steel doors and windows with bars.

“These drugs end up affecting our community. I think it is a very proud day in our community,” said East Palo Alto Mayor Ruben Abrica.

All six suspects face numerous felony charges. All of them are from Mexico and each is being held in jail in Redwood City in lieu of $5.3 million bail.

May 9, 2006 at 10:33 pm
(119) Josecanusee says:


Dear Friends,

Bob and I will again be traveling to DC for the Fallen Police Officers’
Memorial Services this weekend. We will be leaving Wed, May 10 and not
coming home until Mon, May 15. It will be hard, but good to see “old”
friends and meet new ones who have been forced to join our
group……..the one no one wants to be a part of.

I will send an email when we get back home to tell you about our trip
and the contacts we make. We are meeting with some DOI people, a couple
of Congressmen, and some friends from Numbers USA and FAIR. Thanks for
your caring concern and please keep us in your thoughts and prayers.

Also please remember both of our parents. They are struggling with
health issues, broken bones, and other disabling problems. It is so
hard to see them so sick and needy. We continue to pray for grace and
patience as we deal with these tough situations for all of us.

Take care.
Bonnie, Kris’ mom
EOW 8-9-02


May 10, 2006 at 2:56 am
(120) Mr. Americano says:

You got a point, josecanyousee, you got a point, I’ve gotta give you that at least. But, just so you know, I’m hedging my bets, I’m working towards, and pretty close to, being able to leave my home, the place of my birth, the USA, permanently, and live in South America, I don’t mean Mexico, but WAY down in South America, because honestly, I think the USA is a lost case at this point, no place is paradise, but I’ve seen the USA become the Christian version of Iran, and I’ve had it, I’m done with this stupidity. I hate to say that, because I am somewhat patriotic, my dad is a war vet, and there’s a lot of good things about the USA, but I ain’t gonna spend my life swimming against the tide forever. When the suitcase bomb goes off, hopefully I’ll be down in S America feeding my pet spider monkey or something like that. But I still say that when it does go off, it ain’t gonna be the fault of Maria Consuela cleaning you local Wal Mart 7 days a week, slaving away for a better life, which is a natural human impulse no matter where you’re from, Minnesota or Mexico, it don’t matter…it’s gonna be the fault of idiots like Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz/Rove/Bill O’Rilley/Pat Robertson/Jerry Falwell/James Dobson/Reagan’s Rotting Corpse/Limbaugh/Etc… and the idiotic, xenophobic fools that support them, packed into their megachurches each sunday awaiting the rapture and hating liberals and evolutionists and etc….giving the world, especially the stupid islamic fundies, so much to hate, so so much to hate. Bush’s and his supporters attitude is F ‘em, F the world and everyone who disagress with them…I say instead, F all of you, keep hating each other in the name of God, keep watching tv, keep worshiping rich people, keep up all your stupidity, keep hating and hating and hating….I’m laughing at you all, laughing, packing my bags, and laughing, and to those of you that say good riddance, I’m laughing even harder at you, because I know that sooner or later, you’ll realize that you’re on the losing side of history, and boy, do Americans hate to lose!

Good Night, and Good Luck, this is my final post, and I’m outta here, in more ways than you can imagine!

May 10, 2006 at 9:22 pm
(121) josecanusee says:

Mr. Americano,
Hey, you know, there are many things about which you and I agree. I do think it’s sad, though, that those of us who love this country have to even entertain the thought of leaving it, because it’s a lost cause. Think of it this way……if our founding fathers had had that attitude, there would never have been an America in the first place. And alhough I despise Bush, Clinton, Carter, Cheney, et al, and the rest of those pompous, arrogant, globalistic megalomaniacs as much as you do, there’s one thing in which we differ……..there was already a WTC bombing way back in ’93, before that idiot, Jorge Arbusto and his pack ever arrived on the scene. You see, there are people (as a matter of fact, more people than not) in this world who will ALWAYS hate America…..but you know what……..they may hate us…..but they all want to COME here, to LIVE here, to partake in that great experiment that has almost come to an end. And although they hate us, they sure as hell don’t mind it when we throw money at them…. correction, when our ELECTED BUFFOONS take OUR money and throw it at them, thinking that money will solve everything. It doesn’t. Neither does being nice, tolerant, and forgiving, or letting people walk all over you, as our politicians are doing to the American citizens, and as the illegal aliens are doing to us, too. While it may not be Consuela who sets off the suitcase bomb, it’ll be Maria who comes across the border, pregnant (multiplied by thousands) who drives up the cost of medical care, it’ll be Jose ( my namesake :>) who crossed the border with Multi drug resistant TB who passes it to poor, unsuspecting Americans who happen to be closeby when he coughs or sneezes…….yep, this country is so messed up that it’s just about beyond repair……..and you can’t put so many people with so many different languages, cultures, and beliefs together and actually expect them to get along. And as for the terrorist…….they’re already here, who knows what’s going on at your local mosque…do a google on Laura Mansfield, an American woman fluent in Arabic.read some of her articles and you’ll know that it’s just a matter of time until something that will make 9/11 look like child’s play occurs. Mr. Americano, I wish you well. Sad that you have to leave the country of your birth because it’s been invaded, ruined from within by greedy businessmen, even greedier politicians, and apathetic Americans who don’t have the cojones to take back this country……by violent means if necessary…..just as it was born. Good luck, Americano……take care, and enjoy your new home.

May 13, 2006 at 12:29 am
(122) josecanusee says:

VDARE.COM – http://vdare.com/guzzardi/060512_lawlessness.htm

May 12, 2006

Mexico’s Lawlessness And Machismo—Coming Here, Courtesy Of The Bush Betrayal
By Joe Guzzardi

I have two sisters and several nieces and nephews who live in Guatemala.

Nothing gives them a bigger laugh than reading that Mexico is calling the shots on U.S. immigration policy and basing its demands on “humane treatment of migrants.”

Throughout Guatemala, it’s universally understood that when someone sets out for America, he’d better hope and pray he makes it all the way. If such “migrants” are apprehended in Mexico, the lucky ones are jailed. The unlucky ones will be mugged, beaten and sexually assaulted before they are eventually thrown unceremoniously back into Guatemala.

Captured migrants in Mexico are not, as is the practice in the U.S., released pending a hearing. They will not be allowed to enroll their children in school, will not be eligible for medical services and will most certainly not be participating in massive street demonstrations for their perceived rights.

Sonia Nazario, the Los Angeles Times Pulitzer Prize winning author of the soon-to-be released HBO movie Enrique’s Story, said that while she was doing research in Mexico, she was “afraid…afraid of the gangsters, the bandits, the Mexican police, of being beaten, robbed, raped…”

(Read my VDARE.COM analysis of “Enrique’s Story” here and here.)

Nazario’s simple sentence tells quite a tale about Mexico’s lawlessness and machismo.

Lawlessness: As must be obvious to everyone after the May 1st illegal alien demonstrations, to Mexicans illegally in America, immigration violations are trivial, a non-starter in the crime chase.

When you come from Mexico, “crime” is drug running and murder. Crossing the border, buying fake documents, falsifying job applications and submitting fictitious social service forms is chicken feed.

VDARE.COM has posted numerous columns and blogs that prove that major cities have been overwhelmed by the gangster mentality that dominates in Mexico.

Recently, James Fulford tallied up the numbers of Hispanics (mostly Mexican) on the Los Angeles Police Department’s most wanted list. According to Fulford’s informal count, 85% of the suspects were Hispanic.

And in columns that I have written about San Diego and Salinas, the most wanted lists in those cities are respectively 90% and 100% Hispanic.

(Thinking that perhaps George W. Bush, Western Civilization’s number one booster of all things Mexican, is geographically too far removed from California to pay attention to our criminal profiles, I looked up the most wanted in the District of Columbia, home of the White House. Although Washington, D.C is synonymous with black crime, eight of the nine most wanted for murder are Hispanic.)

Recently, in Lodi, California, my hometown, a small Mexican restaurant/night club was closed. By day, Antonio’s was a harmless Mexican buffet. But by night, enter at your own risk. According to police logs, 98 calls for help were made over an eighteen-month period.

The club closed partially because new owners worried that the numerous police calls would prevent the club for having its liquor license transferred. [ Violence outside Lodi club raises concerns for soon-to-be owners, by Jake Armstrong, Lodi News-Sentinel, June 26, 2006

Machismo: in a classroom incident several years ago, a student who I knew well and liked told me that he would be missing class for the next week or so because he had to return to Mexico to "take care of family business."

I naturally thought this meant an ill relative or maybe a funeral. But another student explained later that the trip home was to avenge his brother’s murder. None of his friends thought a revenge killing was out of the ordinary.

Of course, Mexico has peace loving and devout, God-fearing people. But the presence in the U.S. of its criminal element has overwhelmed American society. Because Mexico’s political culture is so lawless, and because criminals are rarely prosecuted, often the first course of action is macho physical violence rather than rational debate.

But where would Mexican citizens learn about rational debate?

Certainly, Mexico’ politicians set a poor example. With Mexico’s presidential election less than two months away, the three main candidates are running on the genitalia platform.

Read these recent statements:

A television spot for PRI candidate Roberto Madrazo: "We know why we’re with Roberto. It’s because he has big ones."

By Roberto Madrazo about front-runner Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador: "He didn’t have the guts, he didn’t have the manhood to be in the debate."

A radio ad for PAN candidate Felipe Calderon: "He’s got balls."

Mexican political analyst Marcela Bobadilla says: "This thing about size comes from a yearning among Mexicans for a strong president or even a strong party." [Size Matters in Mexico’s Macho Elections, Reuters, April 26, 2006]

Given the crime rate, the sophomoric mentality and the rabid nationalism Mexico brings to the U.S., I can’t fathom the White House’s fascination…even though I understand but naturally disagree with the cheap labor angle.

We want more of Mexico? We want ourselves condemned to the locker room crowd?

For the average American what it comes down to is this: massive immigration from Mexico has been a raw deal on a personal level.

When I first moved to Lodi about 18 years ago, I told my old New York friends that I would walk from one side of town to the other at any time of the day or night without fear.

That’s no longer true. As I file this column on May 11, 2006, the Lodi News-Sentinel has three stories on pages two and three of today’s edition.

23-year-old Victor Vazquez arrested for housebreaking and attempted rape in front of her four-month old baby.
[Stranger breaks into home in attempt to rape Lodi woman, by Layla Bohm, Lodi News-Sentinel, May 11, 2006]

26-year-old Mario Angulo will go on trail for the murder of Johnny Moreno
[Five years after Lodi shooting, murder suspect’s trail begins, by Layla Bohm, Lodi News-Sentinel, May 11 2006]

15-year-old Orlando Delatore’s trial for the murder of Lodi High School student Adrian Cortez.
[Lodi teen Adrian Cortez’s murder trail heads to jury, by Layla Bohm, Lodi News-Sentinel, May 11, 2006]

Right-minded Americans want the same thing I do.

And it isn’t more of the killing culture from macho Mexico—coming here because George W. Bush has betrayed his constitutional obligation to defend our borders.

I want my town back.

I want my country back.

July 17, 2006 at 9:18 am
(123) lala says:

First of all singing the anthem in spanish should not offend us, but make us proud that are anthem is popular and respected enough to pass language barriers.
Secondly, how do some people have the nerve to tell others that if they want to be Americans they need to learn english or go home. A reality check for the ignorant: AMERICANS INCLUDE EVRYONE IN THE CONTINENT OF THE AMERICAS, “THE NEW WORLD.” THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NEEDS TO STOP ACTING LIKE THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO DESERVE TO BE CALL AMERICANS. so yes americans can speak whatever language they so desire. Did the first european-americans try to learn the language of the native americans??? Exactly!
Now, if we are going to get in the argument of “this is our home… they need to leave… stop taking over.. or I want my country back,” than again lets check our history books. who’s land was this in the first place? Why was it that when these arguments were made by native americans no one listen? Face it if we are going to talk about who’s home this is, than Americas (includes latinos, native americans, etc.) have more rights to this land than do those who are descendants from the ones who came from europe and violently took the land away from the natives.


January 29, 2007 at 12:22 pm
(124) Vanessa says:

Hey I’m An AMERICAN and I personally thing we should have the anthem in every language of the world so everyone has the privlage of hearing it and understanding it. One of the major American problems is that ppl in america care for nothing but themselves. We have people from all over the world living in this country we should see that accept it and embrace it. America and the English language is destroying cultures all over the world. Many Eastern country’s speak english on a regulaur bases and it is destroying their history. Most americans don’t know that and most that see this and take the time to read won’t care our nation is full of very selfish people and I believe if we want to continue to be a country where everyone around the globe wants to come and live and work and create jobs and so we should open our eyes to what this country is.

September 12, 2008 at 2:14 am
(125) Jordisant says:

To Sarah Vertes:
Not all imigrants are mexicans, you are just as ignorant as the immigrants you hate. Educate yourself, just because you love something doesn’t mean you own it. Just as they are making a spanish version of the national anthem, any other language can make their own version, whether it be french, italian, french, russian, arab. The anthem doesn’t belong to anybody who can enforce copyright law over it. So get over it.

September 16, 2008 at 5:11 pm
(126) TONY WILLIAMS says:


September 16, 2008 at 5:41 pm
(127) MICHAEL says:

This is not The Star Spangled Banner in spanish, this is Nuestro Himno, an anthem for latinos& hispanics living/born in the US its Our Anthem to the American Flag. GET YOUR SHT TOGETHER BEFORE TALKING CRAP.!!

September 29, 2008 at 9:08 pm
(128) JOCi says:


May 4, 2009 at 5:03 pm
(129) Rachel says:

I work in Europe and have teammates from many countries. Because we do not have a common native language, we use our corporate language – English. This is quite easy for me, but more difficult for them. Therefore, when we are dealing with emotional topics, feelings, or a need for a deeper meaning, we have agreed to use our native language and work to understand each other. In this way, they can more openly express ideas or feelings without misrepresenting them. Although it can be a challenge on both sides, I do believe that hearing something in your native language makes you relate to it more. If it makes our Mexican American people better understand and better feel the power of our national anthem, then I have no issue with it being translated. After all, if I wanted to sing the Swiss national anthem, I might sing it in German, but I would best understand it if I first translated it to English and took it to heart in my native language.

June 5, 2009 at 2:57 pm
(130) Justin says:

I honestly don’t like the song itself, but I see nothing wrong with having the Star Spangled Banner translated. It’s just more of a personal music preference than conservative indignation. I wrote a little piece on it here:

October 2, 2009 at 4:59 pm
(131) RICK says:

im latino ,usa citizen and i believe is an insult trying to sing the national anthem in spanish.The USA natiobal Amthen is In English and should remaing like that
so Dont be confused!
let me be clear !This beautiful country we could called a melting pot,and i think we been abusing from generosity of american people

January 19, 2010 at 2:02 am
(132) Jackie S says:

Let me first say, that if it must, I’m okay with the national anthem being directly translated into any foreign language. However… changing the melody “to reflect a latino structure” is altering the song, and that is unexcusable. It is not the same song then.

I must point out that I am a military member of the United States, serving in Germany right now. At every event (even on base, on US property) we must sing the German national anthem alongside “The Star-Spangled Banner”. It is out of respect for the host country and their culture. I sing these events myself and do NOT sing it in German. Is it really that hard to learn one song in a foreign language. Obviously not considering I don’t know how to speak German (yet). Stand up and show some respect. Learn the anthem in English.

January 19, 2010 at 2:21 am
(133) Jackie S. says:

I get my words confused sometimes. In that last post I meant to write that when I sing the German anthem, I do NOT sing in ENGLISH. I sing our anthem in English, obviously, but I sing the German one in German.

Again, it’s a matter of respect. I’m okay with translations for understanding. When I learned Deutcheslandlied, I had an English translation right next to it. But for performing, use the language of the song. It is what’s right and respectful.

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